Jack M

I will have the calipers out for corduroy inspection.

Well I got this call from Kara.... pointing out the coincidence that you're going to be gone all day... and that I have the day off.... and, well, you know... But maybe you can help me out, what did she mean by "Hot Carl?"

EZE, you riding today? My hopes are not high for tomorrow. Not too interested in slush on concrete. :(

http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?t=17530 see post 20, by boostertwo.

Birk's have toe lift. nya nya. :D

sigh. "yes it does" "no it doesn't" "yes it does" "no it doesn't". so why is it that increasing stance width without adding in some front foot toe lift and rear foot heel lift.... <i><b>sucks?</b></i> let me guess, I'm a lousy rider.

I give up.

I see what you are saying, and I understand it. But in this example you're changing the angle of the foot relative to the leg, because your foot at your desk is not in a hardboot. In hardboots, placing a toe lift under the front foot tilts the whole boot back. The angle between the boot foot and boot leg are not changed. Yes, if you add toe lift and try to ride with your pelvis in the same location over the length of the board as without toe lift, you are going to have less ankle ROM. BUT, if you add toe lift and bring your pelvis back, then the ROM is the same again. This is why I use and advocate toe lift. I rode flat for years before I finally wised up and started cluging my own toe lifts for my p.o.s. BRPs. Never felt right flat. I felt like it always forced my pelvis forward. Using toe lift allows me to ride with my pelvis more between my bindings, where I like it. I have more ROM this way because I'm not limited by the fwd lean of the front boot any more. If I could find a boot that had a zero forward lean option and no high heel and a level sub-footbed, I'm sure I would like a flat front binding.

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But adding toe lift to the binding doesn't change the angle of the ankle (the angle of the foot relative to the leg).

Oh.... hehehe, no. I didn't realize you don't see the little note that says "last edited by" when I edit my own posts. cool. muahahaha.

No, anyone can edit/delete their own posts. Ahh, here is our problem. I'm not talking about adding toe lift to the boot. I'm saying add toe lift to the binding - leaving the boot unchanged. I think that makes my point patently unfalse, yes? ;) Adding toe lift to the inside of the boot would certainly decrease ROM. Agreed. Bummer. It's about the only time I can get away with playing hooky from the family.

hehe... that's why I deleted it. couldn't write it in a misinterpretation-proof way.

care to elaborate? love to. ECES then?

Where do we send the white lilies?

I think this issue is hugely personal preference. Try all sorts of setups, use the one that gives you the best balance and best range/freedom of motion. Toe lift on the front foot does not decrease ROM if you do not increase boot forward lean, and if you do not ride front-foot-heavy. Some people ride way over the front foot, often aggressively leaning forward at the waist. For those people, yes, increasing toe lift would probably decrease ROM. I like to keep my body movements more between the bindings, and with a more upright torso. For me, toe lift on the front foot and heel lift on the back foot simply allows me to use a wider stance (19.75") for greater stability and balance with comfort and <i>increased</i> ROM. Riding flat definitely decreases my ROM at this width. Some people argue that the bend of the board in the turn cancels the effect of flat bindings. While that is true in the turn, it is not true out of the turn, which is equally important. We do not walk flat footed, we walk heel toe heel toe. Take one step forward and freeze when your front heel hits the ground - your rear heel will be off the ground. Meh, like I said, big personal preference factor here. Experiment. DarkClone - you don't want to drop your 10+ years around here. Many here have you by a factor of 2 or more. It doesn't matter.

IMO, riding flat is really unnatural due to the fact that most boots have some amount of forward lean even in the minimum setting, and also a high heel and a ramped sub-footbed. By all means, try flat, some people like it. Then try about a 3 degree increase in front foot toe lift. See what happens.

look at those noses! they scream powder. http://www.sgsnowboards.com/ Bordy man, it's just the internet. Blow it off. Anyone who's read enough of your stuff knows you're the real deal.

Silver Surfer. Oh... you already considered that. I dunno, what could be better than that?

Yes, if it's got the day-glo yellow/green sidewalls and the "blue boy" topsheet, that was in its day a known warranty issue. It has long since been corrected. However, since you bought the board used, and since it's most likely a 2005 model, I think you're probably SOL. You should seek satisfaction from whomever you bought it from, because if they rode it any more than like 2 days, they would have had the delam issue too. Sounds like either they didn't ride it more than that (unlikely), or they did and tried to glue it back on themselves.

hehe. He does it as a hobby and for friends/family. Builds whole boards integrated with this system. I can tell you... they work. I've never felt a freeride board hold an edge like his.

My friend started making these in '97.

Yup, come on folks, step up! We've got another banquet deposit due next week. I really didn't want to say this, but....... if it comes down to it we will have to resort to <b>ASSIGNED SEATING!!!</b> Imagine the humiliation of being forced against your will to sit with such nerds as Fin Doyle.... Dave Morgan.... Shred Gruumer.... Ben Schurman..... I could go on. Oh the humanity! They'll bore you to tears with minutia of numerically controlled machining, Information Technology, digital photography, aeronautical fuel pumps, and whatever the hell Dave really does. So let's go folks, ante up. Oh, and there's an outside chance a Warren Miller film crew might show up.

This would be for an experiment for a friend building a dampening kit.... think Hangl but better.... He has one for a freeride board and I'm trying to talk him into doing an alpine version. Anyone ever had a super lively freeride board? Like, so lively that it's actually a problem? My friend wants to try his thing on something like that first.

Welcome, Will! Hope you stick around. Must have been a blast working with Warren Miller. I hope he was as funny in person. Thanks for putting carving in front of his legions of viewers, and doing it well.