Speedzilla Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 This photo was on Yahoo! from today's PGS race: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Gasp.....how could someone possibly race at a World Cup level with those wimpy bails! Imagine how much faster he could be..... Pretty cool shop project. Snowpro or F2 jerry-rigged to an alum plate and some riders. Looks like a nice set-up... K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar(angel Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Is that some kind of home-made riserplate/conshox type-thingy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Smith Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Looks like instant driver responce and likewise instant "rut" feedback. My feet hurt looking at this setup. Looks like the bros rely on the board alone to stay on the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Gasp.....how could someone possibly race at a World Cup level with those wimpy bails!Imagine how much faster he could be..... Pretty cool shop project. Snowpro or F2 jerry-rigged to an alum plate and some riders. Looks like a nice set-up... K I imagine the bails were like that for a reason. Advancements in snowboard technology have to start someplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 we saw the same set up last month at the europa cups. Many riders just had F2s screwed to the riser plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I imagine the bails were like that for a reason.Advancements in snowboard technology have to start someplace. It was a joke to the folks who think stiffer is always better...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 it looks like an edge response thing to me. the bindings do not attach to the middle of the board. all attachment is out close to the edges. the benefits of a riser and direct transmission to the edge. I will let you enginneering types work out the math but it seems like a sound hypothesis to me. I want to know if its got inserts out that far or of the riser is hooked to the normal inserts somehow. it looks empty in the middle to me. screws ala ski style maybe?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurman Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Hey what kind of boots are the Schoch and some of the other riders wearing? Anyone have any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Hey what kind of boots are the Schoch and some of the other riders wearing? Anyone have any idea? The Schoch brothers looked to be wearing AT boots of some kind but I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin A. Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I think the Schoch's are wearing Head SP's...not sure though, but thats what they looked like. ________ IOLITE VAPORIZER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 What the heck happened to Bozzetto? Double binding explosion, wha-how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurman Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 What the heck happened to Bozzetto? Double binding explosion, wha-how! Better two then just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurman Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Hey what kind of boots are the Schoch and some of the other riders wearing? Anyone have any idea? Here is a picture I found on their web site. Anyone? ->Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Damn! THATS a heel lift! Actually, it looks like his heel is tweeking up the bail up a bit too. Is there any online video of Bozzetto's ejection seat test? Too NASTY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 The boots are northwaves. Josh Wiliey, and Phil Berube use the same boot. Most of the Swiss team wear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Gasp.....how could someone possibly race at a World Cup level with those wimpy bails!Imagine how much faster he could be..... Pretty cool shop project. Snowpro or F2 jerry-rigged to an alum plate and some riders. Looks like a nice set-up... K Woops! Up too late, too little sleep. I see it now. Bordy I've got some money comming your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Northwaves 950, similar to the 900 on the EC/Swoard site, except with metal latches and stiffer tongue, and yellow of course. http://www.extremecarving.com/tech/mat.html scroll down half way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurman Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I'm guessing that these are no longer made and can't be found? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTA2R Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Jack! "double binding explosion" hahaha nice! this should go in Scott F's carver lexicon (alpinecarving.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar(angel Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 That's gotta be upwards of 10 degrees or so! Isn't Northwave boots the ones the EC Swoard guys suggest/use? Also, wasn't G. Jaquet the shaper for Wild Duck at one time? I seem to remember seeing his name on the tail of my 158 WC Wild Duck.....? He ended up 8th overall. ? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirtap Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Paul Yeah, I just happened to read that on the web site from the link from drzone. Right above the picture of the 3 swoards, it says "It's unfortunately very difficult to find especialy made equipment on the market for extreme carving. For this reason, we build our own boards (Jacques has been shaper for WILD DUCK snowboards for 1990 to 1994). Despite their allround behaviour, they are the result of more than 10 years of extreme carving exprience." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Fudamental but pirate training techniques win! Seee it the in thing! RSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. sandman Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 What the heck happened to Bozzetto? Double binding explosion, wha-how! Ditto!!?? How exactly does a rider of this level blow out of both bindings at the same time?? Bails not tight enough, or some new syncronized release system?? Anybody have any details?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateW Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 How exactly does a rider of this level blow out of both bindings at the same time? From looking at the bindings in that first picture, I think the answer to your question might be: "easily." I read Kent's comment (how could someone possibly race at a World Cup level with those wimpy bails!) not as sarcasm but as honest surprise that a serious rider would trust their most treasured assets (functioning knees) to such fragile equipment. To say nothing of losing a race because your equipment failed. At least you can decide when and where to tweak out a big method :) but failures tend to happen when you least expect them. I read about how brand X bindings are popular and famous racer Y just keeps a lot of spare parts on hand, and I just shake my head. It just boggles my mind that top-tier racers compromise safety and reliability. Not that any binding has a 100% perfect record (as far as I'm aware) but still, I just can't imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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