Spoon Shao Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 NEW QUESTION! I bought f2 race titanium bindings and try it out with my B shell MS 120, like what sigi said, I found that the boots' heel cannot fully touch the binding's base, which results in a 2mm gap. Do you just ignore this? Or do you DIY some thin material on to the binding so that you can truly step onto the binding instead of putting all the pressure on the bindings heel bail? According to the description of SG performance bindings, they use heel bail 3mm lower for MS boots, should I just use a 3mm plate under foot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 I didn’t notice any problem with my F2s….although the SGs are more snug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Shao Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 3 hours ago, ShortcutToMoncton said: although the SGs are more snug Yep, I guess this 'snug' feeling is probably the result of lower heel bail? And if the boots' heel cannot touch the bindings, then all the pressure would be on the heel bail, might be the reason why so many people breaks their heel bail. Anyone share the same thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 I don’t know what you mean about boot heels not touching the binding. That doesn’t make any sense to me. Why would the heels not rest on the binding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Shao Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 @ShortcutToMoncton Because the height of the heel bail(metal part) is 53mm, and MS's heel height is 50mm or so. Thus when you step into the bindings, it would be the heel bail holding all your weight, your sole won't be touching the bindings' heel surface, like the drawing below.(yellow part is the boot's heel, and there would be a gap if you use f2 race titanium with MS) Today I found on the description page of MS's own version of f2 bindings(named Mountain Slope f2 bindings), they say they lower heel bail by 3.8mm, so the situation above won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 ^ love that diagram! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortcutToMoncton Posted May 20 Report Share Posted May 20 (edited) On 5/9/2024 at 10:13 PM, Spoon Shao said: @ShortcutToMoncton Because the height of the heel bail(metal part) is 53mm, and MS's heel height is 50mm or so. Thus when you step into the bindings, it would be the heel bail holding all your weight, your sole won't be touching the bindings' heel surface, like the drawing below.(yellow part is the boot's heel, and there would be a gap if you use f2 race titanium with MS) Today I found on the description page of MS's own version of f2 bindings(named Mountain Slope f2 bindings), they say they lower heel bail by 3.8mm, so the situation above won't happen. Interesting….where is that description? I’d put my backup F2s away for the season but might pull them out for a test fit. They worked OK but definitely not as “locked in” feeling as my SGs with MS bails. Edited May 20 by ShortcutToMoncton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Shao Posted May 20 Report Share Posted May 20 3 hours ago, ShortcutToMoncton said: where is that description? https://www.hardsnowboard.ru/product/krepleniya-dlya-snouborda-mountain-slope-race-titanium?lang=en It is a russian website. And I know it is pretty strange since I can't find description anywhere else. Maybe @MountainSlope would be able to verify it for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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