bobdea Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 So I just bought a pair of the sigi bindings.. Are the toe and heel blocks and bails the same? want to modify them to be intec at some point. I learned not to trust f2 bails the hard way..... f2 is actually why I went back to td2s, broke a Tnut on the damn things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamifumi Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) On 2/12/2019 at 7:41 PM, bobdea said: So I just bought a pair of the sigi bindings.. Are the toe and heel blocks and bails the same? want to modify them to be intec at some point. I learned not to trust f2 bails the hard way..... f2 is actually why I went back to td2s, broke a Tnut on the damn things As far as I know SG binding is not intec compatible. The bolt to hold down the bail goes opposite ways compared to F2 Not sure what you exactly mean by “toe and heel blocks and bails are the same?” ... but toe and heel blocks are not the same just like f2. disclaimer: I got 2 pairs of SG bindings Edited February 14, 2019 by yamifumi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyt. Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Is it the flexing of the binding or the looseness of the bails that riders are switching to the F2/SG? I thought that the TD3s are rigid and built strong to prevent breakage and movement? Once less thing to worry about. Worth the money in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, billyt. said: Is it the flexing of the binding or the looseness of the bails that riders are switching to the F2/SG? I thought that the TD3s are rigid and built strong to prevent breakage and movement? Once less thing to worry about. Worth the money in my book. The F2 bails are no looser than the TD3 bails. I've broken 3 TD3 bails. I've broken 0 F2 bails. “The green reed which bends in the wind is stronger than the mighty oak which breaks in a storm.” ― Confucius There was a period of time where TD3 parts bindings were in short supply due to the illicit actions of two people. There are some who prefer less movement or flex in their bindings some who desire more... This is a reason why there are TD3 SWs. Also the forum is independent of Bomber today and many of the longtime F2 fans don't feel like they have to keep quiet. If you ever visited the Extreme Carving forum you'd know that F2s have been loved by many a long time. Also racers continue to use F2s in mass... Note: I currently own F2s and TD3 SWs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyt. Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, lonbordin said: The green reed which bends in the wind is stronger than the mighty oak which breaks in a storm.” ― Confucius I thought that was Beckman's quote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, billyt. said: I thought that was Beckman's quote? Beckmann Confucious is one person... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted February 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 14 hours ago, yamifumi said: As far as I know SG binding is not intec compatible. The bolt to hold down the bail goes opposite ways compared to F2 Not sure what you exactly mean by “toe and heel blocks and bails are the same?” ... but toe and heel blocks are not the same just like f2. disclaimer: I got 2 pairs of SG bindings Okay, so that’s solved.... next question.... what about the cants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamifumi Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, bobdea said: Okay, so that’s solved.... next question.... what about the cants? Cants and lifts are same set up as F2. But there is one more set than F2. When you buy F2, you. An only do heel lift or toe lift AND inward can’t or outward can’t. SG have 2 sets of lifts (can do both toe and heel lift) and 2 sets of cants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted February 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, yamifumi said: Cants and lifts are same set up as F2. But there is one more set than F2. When you buy F2, you. An only do heel lift or toe lift AND inward can’t or outward can’t. SG have 2 sets of lifts (can do both toe and heel lift) and 2 sets of cants. What size f2 are they the same as? Large? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburk Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 SG bindings are sold as S/L in sizes similar to the F2s, one SKU that can be converted from S to L or vice versus in 2 min or less. The toe and heel blocks have threads / integrated t-nuts to be both S or L, flip the binding over, loosen the two 4mm bolts, use the other set of threads in the block. 1000 times easier than swapping sizes on the S/L F2s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamifumi Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, bobdea said: What size f2 are they the same as? Large? SG is one size fits all. Version 1 of SG binding is harder to change size as you have to take apart the bails but Version 2 has extra mounting hole for bail and much easier to switch from smaller size to larger size ( there are only 2 sizes in SG binding). But the base of the bindings are same sizes between smaller size to larger size. not sure which version you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 14 hours ago, billyt. said: I thought that was Beckman's quote? It was, but Confucius was getting assertive over who said what, and when; so I thought it best to yield on that point. He needed a win at the time, so it seemed like the right thing to do. Besides which, that quote isn't particularly applicable to mechanical links in the guidance system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapos Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) Bobdea I have a L setup on the bindings. its easy to switch it - there is all the manuals and instructions in the box. full set of cantings and lifts too. Edited February 15, 2019 by slapos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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