bruincounselor Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I have a pair of Track 700's and they fit relatively well after molding the stock liners. I was out on Saturday and rode all day in them without any issues. However, towards the end of the day I snugged up the boots (They were getting pretty loose) and ran out of room at all the buckles. All the buckles are moved to the smallest spacing. I have low volume, relatively narrow feet and my toes are snug in the ends - going down a size is not an option. I have heat formed footbeds in there too. I've considered going to a higher volume footbed (like cork); but the nearest boot guy I'd trust to do it along with reforming the liners is four hours and several hundred $$ away. I'm thinking about adding a spacer between the liner and the bottom interior of the shell to take up some space, something like 2-4mm plastic. Has anyone done this? Is this a bad idea? These are all day comfortable (I don't unbuckle them unless I'm done for the day) and warm. I do not want to screw that up. What are the suggestions for those who have similar issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I struggled with a similar issue. Just recently I made a spacer that goes between the liner and the shell on the bottom. It was a kid's crazy carpet cut to shape, sanded on both sides with coarse sandpaper to reduce slipping within the shell Then I glued a sheet of automotive cork gasket on top. My heel used to lift slightly after a few days in a row, now it's pretty locked down. Sorry to all the proper bootfitters that might be cringing. ;) Sometimes you just need to try stuff on your own when you're hundreds of miles from a decent bootfitter. I downsized boots a couple of sizes a few years ago, and almost lost both big toe-nails even after punching the toe area. My foot still lifted in the shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Most any respectable ski shop will stock pre-cut shim material made by Bontex. Usually available in two thicknesses. Or, any solid non-compressible, non-metallic material will work. Like photographic mat board (this comes in on the thicker side of town). Or cut a section from the neighbor kid's roll-up sled. Edited January 25, 2016 by Beckmann AG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Silicone or Gel insoles may work to take up a bit of space without creating any pressure points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticBoarder Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Yep, some spacers I think is pretty standard. I have some deeluxe suzukas that came with 2 pairs. After that,there are different volume liners you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursle Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Deluxe are a high foot volume boot, err, especially a high calf volume boot, bomber sells head boots, no large calves required, (same for upz), do the shell test for length, bare foot into empty shell, toes to the front, only one finger should fit behind the heel, if the shells are to large, you can only fix the symptom, but the next pair will be the right size;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruincounselor Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 At over 240 pounds I would not describe my calves as low volume. Even if I had the money Bomber doesn't have any Head boots near my size. The boot is a 27, my old ski race Nordicas are a 28.5 for comparison. I've gone as small as I can without risking loss of toes. I'll be looking around for some appropriate plastic to space up the foot bed. Thanks to all for the feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 http://www.tognar.com/bontex-insole-shims/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruincounselor Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Follow-up: I went to my local (and friendly) ski shop. They threw a pair of the spacers at me for free and sent me on my way. I cut them to fit under the liners and bam. Ahhh, much snugger at the end of the day. It's always amazing to me what a few mm can do for fit. Thanks for the tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 I'm three footbeds per foot deep. One gel, One superfeet and one simple hiking boot footbed. I think i need one more layer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 ^Try a salmon fillet in each boot. The wild should hold up better than the farmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmetroland Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 ^Try a salmon fillet in each boot. Great advice. Do NOT substitute steaks for filets. I had bone bruises on my soles that didn't resolve for six months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 The 'bone-out' ankle strap on the old Burnt-one binding was for range of movement, not actual de-boning. Amateur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm now using trader joes salmon jerky. It's a bit stiff at first but softens up nicely. Works great and the odor from my boots is a great conversation starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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