rikytheripster Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 So I'm demoing a powder board and want to use it with my side winders and hopefully buy it. Wanting some info on angles etc and general advice. Feels as though angles will be dictated partly by waist width as don't want the toes and heels too inbound. Lift wise I normally run front toe lift and rear heel lift. Both at around 50 deg. I have the 3 deg discs and run no cant, ie the discs are aligned with the binding angles. On the powder board should I do the same to give toe and heel lift or should I reduce this lift by using cant? I don't have access to other zero degree discs either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I run about 40-45 angle up front, my normal toe lift. 20-30 at the back, normal heel lift and 3 deg inwards cant, which I don't have on carving boards. This is just to open up the stance slightly more, otherwise I can happily ride without the cant, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I ride my sidewinders on my pow stick the same angles as on my carver. Fissile has a 24cm waist, flc is 19.5. You do lose some leverge, but I find the comfort worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger jr Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Riky, I'm using SW on my powder board and I run 55* front and 48* rear. There is a fair amount of underhang,( my board is 24.5 wide) but it doesn't bother me especially in powder when you don't really feel the edge that much and it's carvable also. I'd keep your lift in the bindings as you have been using them, I think with the sidewinders canting is less crucial because of the side flex. Powder? Yea, I remember when we used to get that. What board are you trying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeseomatic Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I use 45/15 on my freeride/powder boards for the mobility and surfy feeling. No cant or slight outward cant, mostly lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 35/30 for me on a 24.5 waist, mondo 27.5 Raichle boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikytheripster Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks for the input! Its an apo spray, big shovel nose, setback stance and narrow tail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I find SW annoying heavy in powder... if you have another lighter set of bindings, I recommend bringing them along too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I run my old Intec RS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeseomatic Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) I find SW annoying heavy in powder... if you have another lighter set of bindings, I recommend bringing them along too I second this. I tried Sidewinders on an O-Sin 4807 in the powder because that is all I had with me. Totally overkill and way to heavy, even for a stiffer softbood board like a Donek Saber. Using Burton/Ibex/Carve Company plates was better as the weight was not much different than a pair of light weight strap bindings. However, the Track 700 boots are still much heavier than soft boots. Plates in powder is a compromise at best. I'd rather be in a light weight softie setup and use a shorter board and/or float more. Edited February 6, 2015 by breeseomatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 +1 for lighter bindings. I run plastic F2 RS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I run 45f/30r on free ride and pow boards, using Snowpro race bindings and Dynafit TLT4 boots. Light is good. Save the Bombers for groom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Can't speak to SW as I haven't tried them; I use heavy & stiff nitro stepins with 3* inward cant, the weight never really bothered me though, similar angles as Jon and B for 20+yrs now. I use snopro and burton also but way prefer toe 1st stepin engagement. More "surfy" feel with standards but the convenience is a worthwhile trade off to me. Now if I could just have a stepin heel on the Scarpa ATs. Edited February 6, 2015 by b0ardski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) I use the same angles I use on piste, although back when piste angles were fashionably steeper and boards narrower, I never went above about 50 degrees on powder. These days it's 45 degrees for powder front and back. I think it is less sensitive than on piste, although I will still notice if it's "wrong". The OP was about sidewinders, which I'm sure will work, although (respecting where I am), they are very American, beautiful, but too complicated and heavy for the likes of me. Edited February 6, 2015 by philw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I use TD3 Step in Sidewinders with no cant and 35 front 20 back on my powder board. Yes they might be a little heavy, but I never have a problem with flotation. I used this set up to teach on for the last 2 seasons as well. I only ride with zero cant on this set up (usually 0/3 on my carvers) which really helps with low speed maneuverability, switch riding, airs and powder. I feel that the extra weight is no sacrifice for the piece of mind I get knowing my binders won't break. Just carry more speed and you'll stay on top. Plus, they are really shiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Or, you could just skip the binders altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Or, you could just skip the binders altogether. Yeah, those are almost as cool as Snowblades. http://www.snowbladesonline.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Bumping this one up as I now have a dedicated powder board: http://forums.bomberonline.com/index.php?/topic/34598-169-osin-3800-used-only-one-day/page-2#entry426985 I have what I think are step-in Proflex bindings. They're a metal baseplate with F2 toe and heel pieces. The baseplate is a little different shape than any F2s I've seen, which makes me think they're Proflex. A good choice for a 205-lb guy in powder? I'll be using UPZ RC10 boots on them. My other choice is TD3 SW, which I think is overkill. There's something I don't like about these bindings on hard pack, but I can't put my finger on it. I suspect I could use bungee cords in powder and be good. Try them or stick with trusty TD3s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Corey I run old Raichle RS on my Tanker no trouble. You can see them here. Edited September 15, 2015 by Neil Gendzwill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeseomatic Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I suggest the lightest boot and binding interface you can get for powder. TD3's are not in that equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Hollywood, just because you can't get your hardboots/sidewinders to turn in pow doesn't mean everyone has that problem.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 I want powder issues... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeseomatic Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Hollywood, just because you can't get your hardboots/sidewinders to turn in pow doesn't mean everyone has that problem.... Haha, can't wait for ATC and some powder! Maybe I need another chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 I run F2 Carve RS or similar plastic Proflex in pow, moguls, slush, park. No problems at 185 lbs. Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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