Why would I want a "Boiler Plate"

[Bobby Buggs]

I have not been paying attention lately so forgive my foolish question, but the question still remains...

[BlueB]

Some good reading in here:

http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=1499670

[lowrider]

Bobby Buggs has some catching up to do! Better start by reading up on the various threads.Best reason to get a plate is to save your knees for future carving. Second reason would be to support Sean and Fin.

[Jack M]

It's a suspension system. The way it works is like this. As your board carves and also when it encounters bumps while carving, it bends into an arc. Karl-style plates like the Boiler/Apex/Donek/etc act as a chord of constant length that spans that arc. Your feet ride on that chord, so your feet are always on the same plane, no matter what the arc (your board) is doing below. The result is less jarring to the rider, and the board is free to flex more naturally.

The red line BX is a chord:

Why would you want a Boiler and not an Apex? It will be significantly less expensive. Why would you want a Boiler and not a Donek? The plate is made of carbon fiber and is lighter. The Donek plate is a snowboard-like composite. The Boiler will be significantly more expensive than the Donek though.

[Bobby Buggs]

I kinda like the "Feel" of my board, will I have any sense of feel with the plate

[lowrider]

Will depend on the plate and how you set it up but you will want to try one for sure as it provides the most wonderful ride your board can give you. Smooths out the bumps but allows the board to bend as it is designed to without flat spots under your feet better on ice better on hard pack. The one feature you have to pay attention to is once the board is into a turn if you load the nose you will get a surprise!

[jburrill]

The Donek and the Boiler, Im sure will be killer. I just cant wait till next yr to find out how much the Boiler will cost. I wonder if we should have a contest to see who can guess what the price will be.

[trailertrash]

Why would I want a "Boiler Plate"

To stop your suckage?

So we can all take a break from your whining?

Pick one.

:D

[Bobby Buggs]

Hey...I work hard for my suckage

You my good friend can EAD:biggthump

[yooperluke]

To stop your suckage?

So we can all take a break from your whining?

Pick one.

:D

Dude, you said it!:lol:

[AlexJ]

Whats EAD Buggs?

[jburrill]

So, no contest? Then Ill see you on the slopes. The bunny slopes. Where you will be testing your plate, going slow, and making nice shaped turns and looking at your new boots.

[Bobby Buggs]

So, no contest? Then Ill see you on the slopes. The bunny slopes. Where you will be testing your plate, going slow, and making nice shaped turns and looking at your new boots.

WTF are you talking about? see me on the bunny slopes:confused:

[Juha]

How's the added weight of the plate system influencing from accident/injury point of view? I'm concerned 'bout some "heavy momentum" twisting my poor bones.

That of course is not a problem for guys who never fall:biggthump

I do tend to go past my personal limits and skils so that is an issue for me.

What's the experience?

[lowrider]

Weight isn't really an issue,doesn't add any more weight than a load of wet snow on your board. That doesn't send you down the hill like a rocket out of control .When you go past your limits and skills the plate is likely to help you stay in control !:)

[pokkis]

What is height of Boiler Plate? or is it still classified info?

Weight, if weight of plate is equal or less than wet snow, then what is weight of wet snow and plate

From experience i would say that weight is issue for many riders. I'm used to it for years due being on Tinkler plates so long.

[Juha]

Thanks Lowrider,

The only plate I've tried is a VIST, and that thing felt scary heavy with the plate and snow on board. Especially at low speeds it was like having some cement at your feet. That's why I'm asking if it really ads significantly to twisting forces when you fall or is it just my mental thing. What's your experience when falling with a plate? Like a total yardsale if that has happened to you with a plate?

[Bobby Buggs]

At my high level of suckage, Im far from a racer so I wonder if I would ever need one of these.

[kieran]

What's your experience when falling with a plate? Like a total yardsale if that has happened to you with a plate?

the only extra discomfort came from the higher impact speed, your feet are still fixed in one position

[Juha]

Speed is an interesting point. Many people have said they go faster with a plate. And that plates are difficult at low speeds. In freecarving there's no clock.

So how do you feel with a plate, do you have to go faster to get the same sensations? How's you speed control? Do you just need to go faster to make the board/plate combo to perform or be manageable?

Or do you go faster because you feel more comfortable? Have you seen any difference in your turn radius, do you need more or less space sideways?

Too many questions, sorry:smashfrea but at the moment there is no gear to try out by myself

[b0ardski]

"Im far from a racer so I wonder if I would ever need one of these"

Nobody NEEDS a Ferrari

[Bobby Buggs]

To me it looks like allot of extra stuff that may not be necessary for a sucky rec carver like me, ijs:o

I also worry perhaps without just cause about moving parts wearing out or breaking while in use.

[Corey]

Does anyone need a BTS? Nope, but I wouldn't give mine up if I still rode Deeluxe boots. Some people prefer using the 'locked or open' standard Deeluxe adjuster though.

It's going to be a taste issue. It sounds like the benefits will be obvious to anyone that gets on one, but you have to deal with the drawbacks of cost, weight, and stack height. Some will think it's worth putting up with those, some won't.

[b0ardski]

I forgot about cost, weight, stack height,

Nobody NEEDS a Hummer

[Jack M]

Come on Bob, you're a good rider.