www.oldsnowboards.com Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 At 15cm, I guess that is a Skwal. Cool, I would suggest that might very well be the longest Skwal in the world?? Sweet piece of hardware for sure. 35M SCR , " I WANNA GO REALLY FAST" ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 No it isn't a skwal. My Cyborg is 14,1cm and it's still a snowboard A skwal is less than 12 cm width ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Ok, sorry, I have a hard time getting my mind around that zone between 12cm and the 18cm I prefer. Call is NAS , like Lib Tech I guess? Back to plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Oxess plate will be with UPM insert pattern. Still in test phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John H Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 And even a skinny Cyborg can get a plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 That looks like an SGP custom.... It think thats a nice thing.. looks nice.. can you get some closer shots of that plate.. Custom looks like a good thing.. who did it.. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John H Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 It's an SGP for sure. Great workmanship. I'll get some better pics up tomorrow. There might even be a few pics of a second SGP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 And even a skinny Cyborg can get a plate. Cool! I don't know why not!!! Looks very stealth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John H Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Here you go Shred, a few more pics of the SGP's. Really looking forward to riding these. Cyborg looks weird in the first pic but it's just because of the huge amount of camber in the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 How much on snow time did this SGP get, most of the new offerings are bacically the same in operation but what did you guys learn/change thought the testing process? Only if you care to share of course. And the one with the big monster nose, are you going to use that as a force multiplier to manulipulate and pressure the nose of the board? Think Snow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Isolation mechanism principles are very simple, a hinge at one end of the plate and a combined hinge slide at the other. Actual mechanisms and materials for achieving those principles vary widely and will have different wear characteristics. Plate stiffness, torsional rigidity, and binding placement relative to plate/board pivot points are areas ripe for experimentation. Just mentally doodling here, could a plate be tuned for varying stiffness by attaching a bowstring like adjustable tension strap beneath the plate? SunSurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Just getting to grips with the idea and working through the possibilities . A turnbuckle type device could adjust the tension. If that was at one end then clearance would not be a problem. The string/strap could be fairly thin in that direction, would depend upon what material was used to make it. Spar makers for yachts use steel wire rope and spreaders/diamonds struts to achieve similar ends. My latest iteration homebake plate mechanism, with an 8mm axle, has a 23mm gap between board and undersurface of the plate. http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=310581&postcount=12 SunSurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I will work on an xl document to do the same. This list will start the data collection. Company----Price----Availabiliy Tinkler-------500-1K-Now, custom orders Apex--------1099C$----Now Donek-------380-----Now-Pre-Ordered (introductory price) Bomber------UA------Fall* Oxess------UA------Winter* Pisst---------UA-----UA Vist---------550-----Now Hangl-------650------Now Raba--------IT-------Now SGP----------UA-----UA Kessler------UA------UA Virus------600-700-----winter UA = Unannounced or Unavailable * = Best Guess IT = Italian only website Post additional info , I will edit the list as info is added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Oxess UA UA (probably this winter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 that it's really great that Sean of donek managed to land in a better price point than Vist with something that's the next level up from the vist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Raba, GS and SL by Georg Rabanser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 That's a huge swing in price for the Tinklers. How much of a difference is the lower end vs. High end tinkler? And on a separate note, are these plates advantageous to shorter decks like slalom length boards or just for longer sticks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 That's a huge swing in price for the Tinklers. How much of a difference is the lower end vs. High end tinkler? And on a separate note, are these plates advantageous to shorter decks like slalom length boards or just for longer sticks? About 500$ :lol: sorry, just had to do it. But seriously. Mike Tinkler has been an innovator of flex and dampening for many years. His plates are currently customs builds. The range was just to give folks an idea of what would be likely (from past builds) Some builds include additional components like "Snow Stix" , etc. Both of the USA Olympic contenders were on custom Tinkler Plate Systems. Chris Klug and Tyler Jewell. I would dare to generalize by saying both SL and GS boards can be influenced , it is most common on GS boards. Keeping in mind all plates are NOT the same. Changes are rapid in the current field of builders. Chris and Mike at Timberline recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Just a thought, I plan to continue to update the list over the comming days. It might be best if we avoid quoting the list to prevent confusion. Otherwise readers will be looking at different versions of the list? Thanks in advance. Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 SGP plate.. Available..and customs just talk.. ps.. its like a other custome stuff... i don't see coiler or virus prices.. its custom all im saying is i ordered one for my board and you just give your board dimesions.. anything is posible.. should be a very intresting year!!!!!!!!! RSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 Sorry Shred. Not sure I quite understand , to be clear , are you saying both Coiler and Virus are building plates? Or tell who about the dimensions of your board so they can build a plate? I am happy to add the information. Who or what company is building the SGP? Price Range? Currently available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 at 2:24 and some nice Oxess summer 2010 carving at Saas Fee: <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVq4n81_xns?fs=1&hl=nl_NL"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVq4n81_xns?fs=1&hl=nl_NL" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Very cool! A great glimpse into summer riding there. Great riders too. Can anyone pick out footage of one of the guys on the plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~tb Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 bryan, care to add the Kessler K-plate to your list? http://www.kessler-swiss.com/en/ski.html# Also, whats the chance of adding a brief descriptor. I am curious which of each of these are plates like the kildy plates versus the "karl" style isoplates. Worth adding a column? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 bryan,care to add the Kessler K-plate to your list? http://www.kessler-swiss.com/en/ski.html# Also, whats the chance of adding a brief descriptor. I am curious which of each of these are plates like the kildy plates versus the "karl" style isoplates. Worth adding a column? Absolutely, thanks for the update Todd. Kessler K-plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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