bobdea Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 considering a used diesel VW any of them, if I can find a jetta wagon that's optimum but even a tdi beetle would be great. want to play with bio, love the mileage. also, I know with passenger cars that are diesel in the past you could get away with running #2 heating oil and no one messes with you. unlike with commercial vehicles. The reason I think about this is I'd rather mix in #2 than have to pay more for delivery of DOT taxed diesel or to pick up 40 gallons at a time. is there any difference in #2 other than the price and dye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarderboy Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 with 4 sp automatic. Bought it used @ approx 40,000 mi. and have put 45,000 trouble-free miles on the engine. Intended (and still hope) to convert to grease. Have used it with commercial BD100 up to to a 50/50 mix with regular diesel - no problems. Get 36-38 mpg city. Rough-starting on cold, damp mornings but has never failed, ultimately, to start. Overall, car feels underpowered. 2003 (I think), they went to a larger engine in the Beetle and you could get the two-clutch, six-speed, paddle-shifting Tiptronic automatic with it. I suspect that would be a lot more fun. Lots of quibbles with the car overall - one major - brake booster can self-actuate in hot weather. Actually dangerous. Various warning lights can false-activate. Overall feeling I get is that this is probably a 200,000 - 300,000 mile engine. It will not, however, get there at high speed. The new Jetta TDI is getting green raves. Wish it were a more inspiring ride. That's all from Possum Pouch. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdyno Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I would stay away from the automatics if you can drive manual. I test drove the DSG GTI and it sucked and it is a generation newer than the tiptronic system. I had a service loaner A4 with the paddle shift and wasn't impressed. I am guessing you are looking for used, do some research before you start running Bio as there are some issues with rubber parts that can develop. I did a bunch of reading on boat diesel conversion to Bio and that seemed to be the main concern other than making sure the fuel is properly filtered. I confirm that the Bio develops less power, if this is an issue for you. Slow and steady is the name of the game. Here is an interesting link: http://gas2.org/2008/04/10/biodiesel-mythbuster-20-twenty-two-biodiesel-myths-dispelled/#myth4 And some power numbers: http://engrwww.usask.ca/oldsite/societies/asae-csae/papers/asaepapermbsk02-109.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I know bio disolves crud, including some older rubber parts there's a bunch of reasons I've wanted a diesel for awhile. My neighbor's mercedes that he put 250k miles on before the frame broke then put the engine in another car for another 100k miles is part of it. Bio is another part of it. Fuel economy. Cool factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 And it smells damn fine too! Cool little trick, wherever you snag the oil from will scent your car. I want to pick up a 240D and replace the pump and the seals for the injector lines and run straight veggie in it. Warm enough to do that down here too, just gotta filter the stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I have a 06 Liberty CRD it runs phenomenally on B20 I have never put anything more through it but it is rated for B20. Sadly there aren't any Bio dealers close by but I try to get some at least once a quarter. I have a buddy you converted his 2000 Jetta to a dual fuel with a greasel tank. I'm hoping that this truck is available when I'm shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I think the new VWs require the ultra-low sulphur fuel. So I'm guessing substituting heating oil isn't going to cut it. Cool factor. My ride: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 yeah the new tdis can't run anything other than USLD looking at used, 2006 or older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ya, I have an '02 Golf TDI and just turned 100,000 miles on the odometer. I've burned B99 for about 50k of those miles, so I think the older ALH engines are pretty forgiving as to what you fuel them with, and they're pretty easy to mod for a bit more power. I'd have a hard time going back to a petrol-powered car, because I've become so used to 700-mile tanks. If only VW would market an AWD version in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucible Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Amen on the AWD TDI VW- the closest thing you can get to that in the VW North American line-up is a 10 cylinder Touareg- and then who can afford a 75K SUV? My Holy Grail would be a TDI VW Tiguan, or an AWD TDI Jetta wagon- I have seen conversions of TDI Jetta wagons to AWD, but they were super expensive and not for the faint hearted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarderboy Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Quick fleabay scan shows lots of 05 & 06 available. Imagine the 'bay is a lousy place to buy a car (?), but at least it shows there's plenty of product out there. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 yeah, I'd go ebay for a project car no doubt. otherwise I'd want to drive it first! my GF drove a beetle TDI today. the guy is firm on 5k with 100k on it. she loves it but I'm thinking I can find something cheaper with the same mileage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdyno Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 One of the mechanics at the VW dealer here is putting the R32 rear drive assembly in a MKV GTI. He had also done a bunch of motor work but I don't think he is going to put a blue tec in it any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow4ever Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 http://forums.tdiclub.com/forumdisplay.php?f=51 anyone know if the 2009 VW Jetta TDI still qualify for the 1300 tax credit? $250 under invoice: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=235977 Only if disel is cheaper.... -- David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckcarver Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 as a heavy diesel mechanic i feel i should say ive seen some effects of biofuel. yes they smell like fries and is cheap but, ive also seen damage do to it clogging up injectors and fuel filters and pumps. also some starting/gelling issues in certain cold snaps. mind you these are heavy duty engines that put on 200,000 + kilometers a year. and your car may never see 1 million + km in its life. my 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdifan_2003 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 considering a used diesel VW any of them, if I can find a jetta wagon that's optimum but even a tdi beetle would be great. want to play with bio, love the mileage. also, I know with passenger cars that are diesel in the past you could get away with running #2 heating oil and no one messes with you. unlike with commercial vehicles. The reason I think about this is I'd rather mix in #2 than have to pay more for delivery of DOT taxed diesel or to pick up 40 gallons at a time. is there any difference in #2 other than the price and dye? You think ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derf Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 I was thinking about sulfur content, but it's already been mentioned. Have you though about a cooking oil mod? Some people use filtered used cooking oil from fast food restaurants. They start and stop the engine with diesel, but switch to cooking oil when the engine is hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarderboy Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Bought a $30 photovoltaic "battery maintainer", aka trickle charger, that seems to make the bug much happier on cold, damp mornings. Here on the south ice coast, we don't have enough really cold nights to justify a block heater. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transistor Rhythm Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 My mom's friend runs his Japanese (I think it was a Daihatsu) diesel minivan on grease for 50/50 in the winter till 10/90 diesel/sunfloweroil in the summer. He claims the simpler the diesel engine is the more succesful it will run on grease. So maybe you should be on the lookout for a D and not a TDi. I actually mentioned the car seemed to have a lot more power when I sat next to him before he told me he was running it on sunfloweroil. Supposedly it's a bit better than using pure diesel when it's a simple diesel engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrol Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 is there any difference in #2 other than the price and dye? Yes. it is called Tax Fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdifan_2003 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 with 4 sp automatic. Bought it used @ approx 40,000 mi. and have put 45,000 trouble-free miles on the engine. Intended (and still hope) to convert to grease. Have used it with commercial BD100 up to to a 50/50 mix with regular diesel - no problems. Get 36-38 mpg city. Rough-starting on cold, damp mornings but has never failed, ultimately, to start. Overall, car feels underpowered. 2003 (I think), they went to a larger engine in the Beetle and you could get the two-clutch, six-speed, paddle-shifting Tiptronic automatic with it. I suspect that would be a lot more fun. Lots of quibbles with the car overall - one major - brake booster can self-actuate in hot weather. Actually dangerous. Various warning lights can false-activate. Overall feeling I get is that this is probably a 200,000 - 300,000 mile engine. It will not, however, get there at high speed. The new Jetta TDI is getting green raves. Wish it were a more inspiring ride. That's all from Possum Pouch. BB A good reference point for you wpuld be www.tdiclub.com . Tough start could mean many things you could fix by yourself and with not that much $$. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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