kjl Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hey, Jon. Yes, we rode a few years ago. I remember riding down one of the runs on the east side of Highlands and I thought the snow was bumpy, and in between the bumps the snow was too hard, and it was too steep anyways, and then you went down and just killed it, without even really looking like you were using any effort. I think the turn you are describing is the turn I have been trying to progress to over the last few years. I know the feeling you are talking about - you let the board go further out in the middle of the carve, and towards the end it naturally and effortlessly carves a really smooth, fast track and ends up under you with very flexed knees (and then you can fall over the board in one movement to start the next turn). Instead of feeling like 10 Gs of force and tons of power sometimes it feels like the board is on smooth rollers. The whole thing has a much more relaxed, effortless feeling to it,and you can ride with your arms down by your sides instead of albatrossing all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFluff Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 I think the turn you are describing is the turn I have been trying to progress to over the last few years. I know the feeling you are talking about - you let the board go further out in the middle of the carve, and towards the end it naturally and effortlessly carves a really smooth, fast track and ends up under you with very flexed knees (and then you can fall over the board in one movement to start the next turn). Instead of feeling like 10 Gs of force and tons of power sometimes it feels like the board is on smooth rollers. The whole thing has a much more relaxed, effortless feeling to it,and you can ride with your arms down by your sides instead of albatrossing all the time. Yeah, it looks like this: You can see how far the board is in front of the stance at the end of the turn.That is what helps to make the transition effortless. You just have to be ready for the pop and then roll over, landing in the perfect position for the next turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 It is similar to push/pull, similar to the extremecarver.com boys, but with less reliance on the whole eurocarve thing. Here you go, is that what you are maybe referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 JJ- That is some frickin minty riding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Ong Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yeah, it looks like this: You can see how far the board is in front of the stance at the end of the turn.That is what helps to make the transition effortless. You just have to be ready for the pop and then roll over, landing in the perfect position for the next turn. Hmmm.. sounds a lot like an exaggerated " feeding the dollar" analogy , ever have a problem being too far over your tail come rollover time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coloradoking Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 If you truly want to protect your board, nothing beats a nice thick riser plate, hangls are my favorite, but if your board is not drilled for that, check out the vist plate. My condolences on the loss of the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Here you go, is that what you are maybe referring to? Look at how much that guy moves his leading shoulder to line up with bindings instead of facing the nose. Very noticeable move. Not so much when he is on the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotbeans Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 *Disclaimer* This is my second season on hardboots and am accused of overthinking nearly everything: I believe I can relate to both the "stretching out" effect while in the apex of a carve and the other technique ya'll are relating to. When I feel "laid out" in the carve (or stretched out) it's much like when I used to salolom water ski and carve around the bouys. I'm more laid out and keeping upper body somewhat rigid and feeding the board out and around the apex with total commitment to edge hold. Blow an edge and the system fails due to sudden exit of resistive force from the edge holding my body up. Maybe like a pendulum? but with feeding the board through? The second technique is more of sitting over the back of the board, knee's flexed until your butt feels about 2 feet off the back of the board and "rolling" the board edge to edge. This has allowed me some very fast edge transitions with relative constant edge pressure throughout. It's a very cool feeling rolling edge-to-edge and being somewhat in the back seat just picking whatever line or arc feels good. I use this most often when navigating people-pylons. I'm beginning to think that I'm working on at *least* 4 different techniques, depending on what I'm trying to get out of it. A couple are now starting to blend together at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I'm beginning to think that I'm working on at *least* 4 different techniques, depending on what I'm trying to get out of it. A couple are now starting to blend together at times. Cool. It never hurts to have too many tricks up your sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 FYI.....It hard to take someone seriously when there avatar is about weed. And yes, for the last 17 years I have seen this phenomenon. :D Don't mind him JJ he's from Californy he don't know no better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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