Skully

What's the difference between a Hoover vacuum and a snowboarder? You can take the dirtbag out of the hoover.`

The sole length is 289mm Inside the cuff of the boot is marked 25-27.5 (not the tongue.) Inside the shell is marked 26.5. I usually wear a size 9 street shoe, which doesn't mean much. My softboots (Salomon Malamutes) are 26.0, and my toes just barely touch the end. Hope this helps.

FYI slam: Liberation makes SNOWBOARDS also...

fscott and mtres you've both got mail...

You've got mail.

You may be right, as long as the ThermoFlex liner has less volume than the regular liner. I can check the length of the shell later tonight if you would like.

Thanks for the props. Yep, I ride with Bordy and the other Utah boys whenever I can... Which is not often enough. The board I'm riding in that photo actually belongs to Bordy, and Davo (tilledog) took the photo. What were you saying about the liner and the shell? Any other questions about the boots?

I bought a Carveboard a couple of years ago. It's fun to play on once in a while. Does a good job of reminding the legs which muscles are used for carving, if I spend a lot of time on it during the summer, I notice a difference when fall comes around. I bought it over a T-board because the learning curve on the Carveboard is way shorter (I really like the way the T-boards ride also though). My wife was just getting into snowboarding at the time, and she rides the Carveboard quite often now also. The big pneumatic tires are fun too. My kids like riding it with me too. I can stick one of them between my feet on the board and cruise down small hills with them. The big pneumatic tires are fun too. You can run over stuff that stops many longboards in their tracks: rocks, sticks, curbs, beer bottles, small animals.....

I thought this was interesting: http://www.liberationsports.com/Products/wakeboards/l140.asp Anyone on the board have any experience with something like this?

I doubt it, but If you really want to try, I'll sell them to you. My foot is somewhere between a 26.5 and 27, and I can squeeze into them, but not too comfortably. I also run a custom foot bed, which takes up a little more volume, so I think I'm gonna have to go with the some 27's. If you're still interested let me know though....

New 26.5 Deeluxe Suzukas for sale. Regular bladder (not thermoflex.)) I tried them on long enough to find they are too small for me.... Make me an offer, post here or e-mail through my profile. Obligitory Marketing Photo: P.S. I can also get other photos of the actual boots if anyone is interested.

Nope no lid... I saw the clip and he was hemetless....

Jeff, Are you talking abuot the photos Bob took on Friday? I'll e-mail you Bob and Sue's e-mail address and you can contact them.

Jeff, Are you talking abuot the photos Bob took on Friday? I'll e-mail you Bob and Sue's e-mail address and you can contact them.

You like the avatar hugh Dave? For those of you not in the loop, Dave took that picture of me.

My daughter has one of those too... Polly Pocket rides alpine too, you should see how screwed up her stance is! If I ever get a digital camera, I'll post her setup. (I can't believe we're all replying to a post about Barbie, what a bunce of geeks.)

So what are your suggestions for good softie setups for carving? Still the Salomon boots (F-boot and malamutes?) and the salomon binders? What about boards? Volkl? Tanker?... ALso, someone mentioned something about hating laces (lacebooters.) There are lots of options out ther in softboots that do not involve tying laces anymore - the salomon's are a good example, the quick-lace system, or whatever you call it. Pull on the handle, it locks and you're good to go, no tying involved, you can tighten them as tight as you want, or leave them as loose as you want. Vans has licensed the boa system also, so there's a lot of options there too, no laces to tie.

Bomber has boots in your size, so they shouldn't be too hard to find. There are a few online outlets for hardshell snowboard boots. If you mean not many retail shops have them, then you're right. If you make trips to Utah, check out www.hardbooter.com. They're based in Utah, and if you make a trip out here, you could get together with Dave or Mike and try boots on. They don't have a store front, but I'm sure they would be willing to meet somewhere to try boots on. It's getting toward the end of the season, so they may give you a deal also.

Actually, that post was originally written by Pre School Rider, and posted on Freecarve.com. You could look him up on the members list and shoot him an e-mail and see if he could send you a photo, or post one here. I haven't seen too many posts from him lately.

(That I wasn't there....) See you Saturday.

Sorry, I guess I'm just a wanna-be hoser eh?? Strange Brew has got to be one of my favorite movies of all time, I guess I'll have to change my avatar if it's offensive though.:(

From freecarve.com, written by PSR: At the end of the season(ours in the Northeast is almost done),I put my boards on a camber rack for the summer.This helps boards hold their shape,both in terms of camber,and in terms of twist.It's fairly easy to make,using 2x6's,and 1" wood dowels,roughly 1' long.Each 2x6 gets five dowel rods,one at the center(centered in regards to length and width,draw a lengthwise centerline for reference),and two each at the ends.I cut the length of the 2x6 so that it's +or- 6" longer than the boards that'll be mounted on it.The dowels at the tip and tail of the board are placed 2" inboard of the nose/tail curvature.Space the end dowels so that there's a gap of 1/2" between them(3/4" from centerline of the 2x6 to the center of the dowel holes),and that one dowel is directly above the other,with regards to the centerline.The dowel placement should look a little like this, : . : but with the center dowel up to the true midpoint of the 2x6.Small shims can be used to cure any gaps(Asyms are a challenge!),or to set the right camber for a given board,And paint-stirring sticks are ideal here.Set your boards base-to-base on the rack,matching lengths whenever possible(try to stay within 10cm of difference between any two boards on a rack),and shim only enough to keep the current camber,as a thick shim can actually stretch a board's camber over the summer.Store your boards in a dry,tempature-stable area,away from direct sunlight(most garages are o.k.).Don't forget to wax them before storing,and be sure to cover the edges with extra wax to keep rust at bay.I hope this helps the more serious riders keep the quiver in shape during the off season.Gotta run now,as my boards(15 of 'em,Oy) are due to be put up for the season.Ah,the smell of wax...

I kinda suspected you were a pilot, and would be flying in yourself... (I'm jealous...) Just let us know when you're comming. I'm at The Canyons on Saturdays, and may be able to swing you a deal on a ticket....

Yup, it snowed last night, and the weather monkeys are predicting snow Friday and Saturday, but nothing substantial. Park City and the Canyons both reported 1 inch new in the last 24 hours. If you can re-consider, you may want to, as there shouldn't be any major ammounts of new snow. I'm stuck at work, so I'll only be there for the weekend days...

There are also discount tickets for the Canyons available in the Salt Lake valley. $49 also, or $47, depending on where you go. Mike is supposed to be updating the schedule on harbooter.com with info about where to get those, and he will also be posting an meeting places and times, along with an FRS channel for communication. If you're staying in Salt Lake, it will be easy to pick up some discount tickets on your way to Park City, otherwise something should be able to be worked out with someone comming up from the valley to pick up discount tickets for you.