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Talk to Leah Stevens at Sugarloaf. You can drop my name, but not ECES. Sugarloaf primetime is mid Feb to mid March.

well, see rule #9.

cool. we've recently had to deal with some people who wanted to disrespect hardboots, so we are a little battle hardened. hope you enjoy it here.

1surfer, welcome to BomberOnline. This is a website and forum dedicated to alpine snowboarding and the pursuit of the ultimate carve. Most people here are in agreement that the ultimate carve is best practiced with hardboots. We welcome softboot carvers here, but just know that disrespecting hardboots in our house is a quick ticket out of here. I hope you enjoy your stay with us and will contribute to the positive vibe here. Thanks.

Todd rides out here in the eastern US. Here it's not a matter of big boy or otherwise, it is a matter of what is usable. Narrow trails don't lend themselves to a stiffer 14-24. Out west, sure, give me a Silly Good or whatever.

This is so cool!! Einstein 2.0 is on our little forum. Garrett, I just hope you are careful with that noggin!

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fixed.

I like the design of that board, Seth Wescott was part of it. I never rode one, but on paper it makes a lot of sense. For $100 I'd say it's a steal.

Whatever slopestar! Sweet ride Shred!!

:D Of course if you can finagle the trip to coincide with SES, you should go there. But JH is amazing, I could live there. My biggest regret was not bringing my 185 NSR, there are some sick groomers. You will want an all-mtn ride too, as there is a pantload of off-piste action. One thing I didn't realize is that the town of Jackson is a 15-20 minute drive, and that's where a lot of nightlife is. The base of the mountain is called Teton Village, and there is some good nightlife at the Mangy Moose, and some good/fine restaurants (reservations recommended). But if you are going to be there for a week you are going to want transportation into Jackson, which may mean renting a vehicle. That's what we did, but there is also a bus system.

Sandlot - nice pull! I think I saw Sean Martin use the term pedaling here first, and he was referring specifically to the twisting that might be done with heel/toe efforts. Shrug. Jamming your knees together Duckboy style is and does something else.

I thought pedaling was twisting. Not bending (decambering). In either case, you can only affect the shape of the board between the feet, so I don't see the point. I think the way more effective tools in my bag are inclination and angulation. That vid of JJA does not show "crazy low (binding) angles" as far as I can tell. It also shows him on older two-piece Hangls. He knows better now. :p Neil, don't forget, the scr of any board is actually a radius slightly longer than the longest turn it will carve without skidding. As you tilt the board up, the board bends and that radius gets smaller.

bah. :rolleyes:

I really don't try to pedal. If it happens, I am completely unaware of it.

Ha! I don't think the printed specs of the NSR jive with the trails we were on.

Glutton for punishment eh? ;) I've never said you can't do it, just that it's pretty much pointless, imo. Again I have to ask why anyone would want half their board biting and half not biting. You can ask Bruce Varsava whether or not I can stuff a 185 NSR down a narrow trail without pedaling.

middle of this gully is perfectly groomed nightly, as are many other great slopes: In the town of Jackson, 20 minutes away: the famous Mangy Moose, at the base of the slopes: that's just the restaurant side, the bar side is great, and has been rated the best apres-ski bar by many mags. Tram gets you instant access to over 4000' of usable vert: Stay here, ski-in/out: And to cap it off, the Jackson Hole airport is within sight of the resort.

Surmise. Obviously if pedaling were that important, two-piece Hangls would still be in favor. Even the Vist impedes pedaling.

You can see what equipment works on the race course with your own eyes. You don't have to be a chicken to judge an egg. You can also surmise that the benefit of plates and having your feet on a rigid platform trumps the ability to pedal or otherwise deform the board with your feet.

I do not race either, for all of those same reasons. I tried it briefly and it just didn't stand it up for me. However I don't think you (or I) are too old, there are master's divisions for us. If I had the kind of time and money flexibility in my life to ride as much as it appears you do, I'd sacrifice some of those days to see how I'd do in a course again.

You're putting words in my mouth, I didn't say that. I would like to agree with you that talent could trump seemingly required equipment. If you have so much time to spend on the hill, why not race yourself and find out? However we simply have not seen that happen, afaik. The Olympic podium was Anderson, Karl, Bozzetto, all on plates. Karl was on his own Apex clone (or is the Apex a clone of the Karl? I forget) I'm not sure if Bozzetto was on an Apex or clone or a Vist or Hangl. Karl won the overall WC PGS. In the WC, if you're not on an Apex/clone, you're on a Vist or Hangl, or you're not in the game. Surely someone on the WC has experimented with removing their plate in training. As for the weight penalty, it has been there for a long time with Vist and Hangl. I know the goal for the Bomber plate was to come in at or under the weight of a Vist, I have to imagine that was a goal for Apex too.

:lol: That's some mad respect you've got for the racers there! :D AFAIK, it wasn't just the Olympics, the Canadians were doing well on the WC all season on the Apex plate. That's why they camouflaged it, and why everyone wanted to know what it was and why everyone was trying to copy it. As for pedaling, I don't know why anyone would want to make half their board bite while the other half is just along for the ride. You can ask Bruce (or Bob for that matter) whether or not I can stuff a 185 NSR down a narrow trail.

Interesting, is it an opinion that racers are flocking to setups with isolation plates that eliminate pedaling? :P

The fact that racers would eagerly give up the ability to "pedal" a board in favor of the benefits of isolation plates (Apex, etc) should tell you something about the effectiveness and usefulness of pedaling. Bob Dea, man, I'd love to see you get back into shape and kill it on a board, because it sounds like you once did, some time ago. Alpine seems to be very important to you, why not commit to it? It would benefit your life in so many ways.