barryj Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 I have Intuition Power Tongue liners in my Deluxxe Track 425's and in this early season middle of the trail only grooming and nothing but man made firm snow they are killing my shins and calves from the jarring non flex ride over crusty death marbles! I acquired them last year and they took some getting used too but I thought they were very responsive and sort of comfortable, but that was in late season soft natural snow conditions with full edge to edge grooming. Anybody else experienced this?? I'm going to put the stock liners back in my 425's for tomorrows outing and see if it's any more enjoyable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Did you have them molded? Are you experiencing movement inside the liner during riding? I much prefer a wrap liner to a tounge, but fit trumps that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertAlexander Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 I have the 425's and use the "Intuition Power Wrap" , have not had any problems at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Before giving up try a zip lock bag with some veggie oil or spray pam inside placed on your shin. Let me know how it works ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted December 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr.E said: Did you have them molded? Are you experiencing movement inside the liner during riding? Yep - molded and No heel movement during riding. Comfortable except for the jarring stiffness. 20 minutes ago, lowrider said: zip lock bag with some veggie oil or spray pam inside placed on your shin Uh!...that sounds like some real Voodoo s--- lowrider! but the problem is not shin splint pressure...it's their Too Damned Stiff and every bump on this manmade crap snow sends jarring vibrations through my legs. Even with the top two buckle set on the loosest setting it's a jarring ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Well if all else fails walk mode but don't tell anyone it was my suggestion ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, barryj said: No heel movement during riding. Comfortable except for the jarring stiffness. I meant movement in the cuff (fore/ aft, or side to side) between your leg and the liner. If you need to crush your leg with the buckles to get rid of movement, then you are also crushing out any ability to absorb shock. If you have a "snug" buckle adjustment, but your shin is banging into the liner, then you probably have too much space in there. Could just be the wrong liner for your comfort level. That's part of the reason they make a bunch of options. Best of luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Was this (injury) condition just realized after one day or has it been persistent ? If more than one day perhaps you have injured the periosteum in your shin. Padding and less friction will help. Not a doctor just been there done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamifumi Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I had issue with my .951 boot and intuition pro tongue. There was always a pressure where tongue meets the back area of the liner (muscle right next to the shin on outside). i cut off some of the tongue and it relieved some pressure last year but this year I changed it to intuition SBX wrap (thanks to @Mr.E and I have no issues at all. I am all for wrap type now. i also have Northwave .350 and I am using intuition pro wrap with no issues. Edited December 11, 2020 by yamifumi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 The .951/ SBX wrap is the most comfortable/ highest performance set up I've ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted December 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 I ponied up for a set of Intuition Power Wraps today and got them molded and out on the hill for a couple of runs. Wow! Instant Relief and more forward flex!! Guess add me to the Wrap Convert list 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tddragon Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) I have same issue with heat molded power wraps in my rc12 upz boots. No matter what I do / to much pressure on arch of my foot. Went back to stock liners and no issues at all (except for freezing toes when Temps drop) Edited December 24, 2020 by Tddragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colozeus Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 "killing me softly with his tongue" by Fugees... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillB Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 Intuition Power Wraps are the way to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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