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Donek Rev 163 review (freecarving)


Corey

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Day 2 on the new-to-me Donek Rev 163. Day 1 was on awful conditions so I didn't get a good feel for it. 

Well, yesterday let the true character of the board shine through! This could be a one-board quiver for many riders that don't only make huge GS turns. It makes tiny turns when you're up on the nose, big turns when you're on the tail, and anything between. No big surprise; it's designed to do exactly that so it'll cope with any race course. 

It'll happily finish turns to control speed, or end early so you rocket into the next one. It does prefer an aggressive weighting to start the turn, or it defaults to a big turn. When you're cranking it tight, it's a heck of a cardio workout! 

It's not happy at very high edge angles (80+ degrees? I don't know) on very firm snow! The board washed out and left marks only from the nose and tail. This is clearly a side effect of the deep sidecut; the only reason I note it is that it grips so very well up to that point and then surprises you when you're skidding on your stomach or hip. So I've discovered that SL boards aren't EC boards... Duh!

I took out the Rev first, then hopped on my favorite Coiler EC for about an hour, then went back to the Rev for the rest of the day. It takes something pretty special to usurp the Coiler EC! 

My verdict: Not for beginners who aren't comfortable starting a turn aggressively, but I'm in love. I think I'm going to put a lot of miles on this board!

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Thanks for the review!

What stance are you riding? I wonder if the board isn't bending enough between the bindings due to a wider-than-anticipated stance. Do you know the weight it was built for, or was it stock? How does that compare to your weight?

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20" wide stance, angles set for no drag at ~85° or so. I really think that the super-high-angle wash-out is just a side effect of the deep sidecut on very hard snow. I'm leaving 0.25" deep trenches when turning very hard. Looking at the marks in the snow after I slid out, I could see the groomer lines left between the nose and tail marks - the center of the board just wasn't touching the snow. 

I believe it's a stock build from Donek. I'm about 175 lbs and like to bend boards aggressively. 

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I should add that I spent another 1/2-day on the Rev: Yup, still awesome! Yup, need to find a way to work out my back more as it hurts. Deadlifts aren't cutting it. 

The Rev is all waxed up for another day today. Also noting that the Ptex topsheet is tough! Had a few lift-exit moments with newbies that didn't even scratch it. Nice! 

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85° of board tilt. The boot angles are set up to allow me to tilt the board almost at a right angle to the slope. 

The front upper cuff buckles and the rear toe are the limiting factors with UPZ boots in TD3 bindings. 

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  • 3 weeks later...

I had a great day of riding the Rev yesterday in -2C (28F) weather on firm snow that you could dig about 1" into.  The effect I mentioned above of washing out at a certain tipping angle was completely gone, so that was likely due to the unique mix of very hard conditions that still supported grip at very high angles.  

This little Rev is a monster on icy conditions!  There was one patch that the Rev just gripped across while another board had me checking if I forgot to sharpen the edges.  This Rev has become a new favorite for mellow runs, and is versatile enough to ride steeps if I'm feeling energetic.  

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Hey Corey, how does the Rev163 compare with your Angrry160.

I've been talking with Bruce about building a SL type board, but with a near radial scr. I used to have an SG163 FullRace (a very similar ride to the Rev) and want something similar, but that doesn't want to send me down the fall line with that 7-12scr.  As much fun as that board was, it required constant attention and effort if you wanted to keep turns tight.

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3 minutes ago, bigwavedave said:

Hey Corey, how does the Rev163 compare with your Angrry160.

I've been talking with Bruce about building a SL type board, but with a near radial scr. I used to have an SG163 FullRace (a very similar ride to the Rev) and want something similar, but that doesn't want to send me down the fall line with that 7-12scr.  As much fun as that board was, it required constant attention and effort if you wanted to keep turns tight.

Screw tight... feel that REV sidecut...   SPEED!

ZOOM!!! :eplus2:

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8 minutes ago, bigwavedave said:

Hey Corey, how does the Rev163 compare with your Angrry160.

The Angry turns a lot tighter no matter what.  I'd say the Angry is more 'playful' and eager like a puppy, while the Rev is a serious machine.  It's truly freecarve vs. race.  Like your experience with the SG, you do need to stay on top of the Rev to control speed, but at the same time a subtle fore-aft weight shift is all the difference between a full C-carve and a minimal speed loss (-carve.

I demo'ed a Rev 163 last year in Aspen, and I thought it'd only like zipper-line type stuff but what surprised me was the variety of turn shapes available if you have the space.  I seem to recall Gary (maybe not, can't remember) rode a Kessler SL for all of SES a couple of years ago, and I wondered why he'd do that.  But now I get it!  The modern SL boards are amazingly versatile.  I fear you'd lose some of that with a near-radial sidecut, but I'd just tell Bruce what you want and he'll figure out how to get there.  ;)  

Another observation is that the Rev didn't like push-pull style, or at least I didn't figure it out yet.  Why would a board care how it was loaded?  I don't get it, but the results were obvious.  The Angry was happy with whatever, giving lots of energy back at the end of the turn to rocket you into the next turn.  The Rev really came to life with downweighting to start the turn and keeping the shoulders truly level to the slope, rocketing you down the slope.  Basically emulate the racer style with the arms out high and upper body upright.  

My back/obliques really hurt today, between the riding these whippy little decks (160 Angry, 163 Rev, and 167 VSR) yesterday and heavy squats this morning.  Ugh...  

Now I need to get on a MK at ATC.  :D

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Thanks Corey. I enjoy the process of creating a board with Bruce. I know this is a Rev review, so sorry for diverting the conversation a bit. I love my custom Rev too! and the contrast between the rides. Different animals for sure. 

I had the same thought that a modern SL race board is a great all around the mountain carver. I felt like I could do anything on it.

One thing I've noticed is that race boards in general, and "beefier" boards like the Rev & SG in particular, are not as great on Aspen soft packed powder as on harder and icy surfaces. Whereas I feel that Coilers have more in common with a Kessler (at least the black ones from a few years ago) feeling a bit mellower and maybe more forgiving of soft snow.

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38 minutes ago, BlueB said:

Corey, is that Rev on slightly stiff side for you? Just asking because of the comment on unwillingness to push-pull... 

Maybe. It's a used board: http://forums.bomberonline.com/index.php?/topic/43877-donek-rev-163-yellow/ It felt fantasic otherwise.

Dave, I guess I'll see, though I really loved the demo Rev at ATC. Then again, I was 40 lbs heavier too. 

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I love modern SL boards too! I wish they made them with mildly rounded/upturned tail, like Prior used to. 

I had a great day at Whistler, yesterday, riding the OES SL. Steeps, flats, hero hardpack, ice, chopped stuff and small moguls, even a bit of park :) 

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