lonbordin Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Would you trade your countries health care system for the US system? US BOL'ers want to know. Edit: Sorry for not having a I'm from the US choice, an oversight on my part in how the polls work within the VBulletin system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I'd trade my healthcare system for say Australia's if I could live there....mind you my wife and i contemplated moving down under a few years ago. FTR I already have great heathcare as a Retired military member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertrash Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 This would be interesting if you could get people who have lived in a non-US system and the US system to respond. Otherwise the data isn't very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 My brother lived and worked in France for a year. When he returned he literally knelt down and kissed the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Applies to Canada and US. If we have such great Govt's why don't we have the best of both systems ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 My brother lived and worked in France for a year. When he returned he literally knelt down and kissed the ground. Because his life was being entirely ruined by the communist bastids in France? Honestly, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. However, I don't understand why you would post something so anecdotal and general, unless it just felt good to say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Because his life was being entirely ruined by the communist bastids in France? well not ruined, but let's say severely impeded. you should hear his stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Honestly, I'd love to know what significant impact the government had on him. I can imagine if he was a journalist in China..but that's simply not the case in France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisling Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 wouldn't it be hard to say unless you'd experienced health care in the US and in say your own country (which is assumed is not here)? i can't say much about other people's health care systems as I've not experienced them outside of stories told to me by others. Since I'm pretty healthy the one time I needed to go to the docs in Ireland, it was sorta funny... doc asked ME what I thought should be done about my ear infection. lol not sure if it was because he was an older doc or what. but it wasn't a bad experience. *shrug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Rover Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Because his life was being entirely ruined by the communist bastids in France? Ha ha..."bastids"!! Ha ha...that truly cracked me up!! At first I thought it was a misprint...and then I thought about it, while saying it out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCrimson Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Ha ha..."bastids"!! Ha ha...that truly cracked me up!! At first I thought it was a misprint...and then I thought about it, while saying it out loud. It was my impression of how I imagined Jack's brother would sound! :) Seriously though, I'm still kinda surprised Jack made that post, in particular because of many conversations on AIM, in which he taught me a lot about political theory without putting too much of a personal slant to it. Even when he did, he was obviously well aware rhetoric is evenly weighted on inclusions AND omissions. Funny.. I just noticed he hasn't been on in a while..Too many questions! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman0177 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Not a single f'ing chance. Our system isn't perfect, but it's light years ahead of most of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Not a single f'ing chance.Our system isn't perfect, but it's light years ahead of most of the world. Ditto. New Zealand runs the same system. I'm finding it very interesting living in Canada at the moment. The US is screaming about taking privatized care away. Canada is screaming about allowing any privatization at all. Two sacred cows, completely opposite sides of the fence, and all the same arguments used to justify both sides. Propaganda and hysteria all around. To a neutral observer, it's very, very weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 If i crash using my new plate (Homemade) i get patched up and i'm good to go! In the US i Crash i go broke Fin wins the race ! Canadian system good for me American system good for Fin. Weird eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 The UK has always had both systems. Relatively few people have private insurance though. Now I live in the US, I do appreciate the quick service. I don't appreciate the tons of paperwork whenever something significant happens. Until recently we had always had double coverage, which was of course rather nice. But if I had one of those crappy policies that so many people seem to have, and a modest income, I know where I would have the most peace of mind. Knowing that if anything serious happens, you don't have to worry about going broke, and dealing with a ton of paperwork, is a huge boon for quality of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarderboy Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 "Given full citizenship benefits, including medical, and a modest living wage, which countries would you rather live in than the U.S.? For me, it would be one hell of a long list. (And please don't flame, "So just f...ing Go!") We all know it's just not that easy. BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisling Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 "Given full citizenship benefits, including medical, and a modest living wage, which countries would you rather live in than the U.S.?For me, it would be one hell of a long list. (And please don't flame, "So just f...ing Go!") We all know it's just not that easy. BB depends on where it is you're looking... some places are easier to get visas for than others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf Quebec Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I've lived 6 years in France, my second boy was born there. Excellent service (better than in Canada from what I've experienced). There are 2 ways to lived in a foreign country: 1 . Get in the mood of the country, have the natives as your friends, live as the natives. You'll love the country ... 2. I've seen canadians having only other canadians as friends, they only go to Canadian/American bars and restaurants. They always complained and of course did not like their stay... Curiously, France is known as socialist country for north american and the private sector has a big part in their health care system... I agree with Allee's comment on the sacred cows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Rover Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I've lived 6 years in France, my second boy was born there. Excellent service (better than in Canada from what I've experienced). There are 2 ways to lived in a foreign country: 1 . Get in the mood of the country, have the natives as your friends, live as the natives. You'll love the country ... 2. I've seen canadians having only other canadians as friends, they only go to Canadian/American bars and restaurants. They always complained and of course did not like their stay... Personally, Stephanie, I LOVE France...used to live right next-door to it as a little kid, and so we'd go into France fairly often...as a change of pace from frumpy Geneva. But I have quite a few Quebecois friends who feel like they are looked down upon when they go to France, as if when they speak french with their Quebecois accent, they are somehow second-class citizens to the TRUE french. I have noticed this very same odd reaction to Australians visiting England when I used to live there for a short while....many British view Aussies and kiwis as somehow second-rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 There are 2 ways to lived in a foreign country: 1 . Get in the mood of the country, have the natives as your friends, live as the natives. You'll love the country ... 2. I've seen canadians having only other canadians as friends, they only go to Canadian/American bars and restaurants. They always complained and of course did not like their stay... I've never understood the second mentality, and it applies to people who go on holiday in other countries as well. If you're going to do that, why not just stay at home, and save everyone the aggravation? Travelling and living overseas is supposed to broaden the mind, not entrench the prejudices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Personally, Stephanie, I LOVE France...used to live right next-door to it as a little kid, and so we'd go into France fairly often...as a change of pace from frumpy Geneva.But I have quite a few Quebecois friends who feel like they are looked down upon when they go to France, as if when they speak french with their Quebecois accent, they are somehow second-class citizens to the TRUE french. I have noticed this very same odd reaction to Australians visiting England when I used to live there for a short while....many British view Aussies and kiwis as somehow second-rate. In my experience, and I knew many Aussies, and Kiwis in the UK, they are more likely to be treated as long lost cousins. Definately thought of as one of us. You can't help but love their dry humor. I had a few Aussies and Kiwis working for me. One day after starting a new construction job in central London, we went out looking for somewhere to have lunch. A portly guy was walking toward us, and one of the Aussies says to him, "where's the best place to get some grub around here?" The guy tells of a great cafe a couple of blocks away. As we are walking away, and still within ear shot of the guy, the Aussies says in a loud voice "if you want to know the best place to eat, always ask a fat bastard". I know I'm going to see that as someone's signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy12 Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Go native, or "When in Rome", and all that. Much more fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeho730 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Well... US $1000 per year has given me 2nd best health insurance plan in the company I use. Funny, the company claims that they are 'not-for-profit' health insurance society... It incluses almost everything (dental, prescription, a pair of glasses, even massage therapy) except for cosmetic surgeries and a private room in a hospital. The plan also covers pre-existing conditions, although there is one year waiting period for them. Interestingly, they didn't even ask my pre-existing conditions when I applied... And the excess is capped to AU $200 per year for the hospital and surgeries. And I can choose whichever private hospital I want to go to. But people still complain that health insurance is too expensive here, so that some would rather save money and pay for treatments only. We also have universal health care (Medicare) so that life-threatening conditions can be treated in public hospitals for free. So... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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