carvin29 Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm on my 4th season with my Burton T6, I love it but it beats the crap out of me in choppy snow. What freeride decks would you guys suggest for a fast, damp ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowboardfast Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Are you riding it with hardboots? It might be the boots and bindings instead of the board.I found I had to go back to soft boots to enjoy riding choppy snow again. Even with a soft flexing board DuprazD1 I was getting a rough ride with flexible bail bindings and bts on the boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 No, I ride burton C02's and Driver boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Stevens Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 My new Salomon Burner is swell. Superlight (with the right bindings) and handles the chop great. With no new snow at the resorts, that's important. great that I haven't had to ride resorts much... Thanks Bell / Textron, Arctic Cat, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Well, bumpy, or choppy, decide? ;) For choppy, like cut up pow, or slushy mess, I'd say Tanker. The sheer size of it smoots out the things for you and it has a mile wide sweet spot. Keep it on the edge and it would cut through the most of the stuff that bounces the others around. Then later in the day, when the things start to form into the real moguls, Tanker stops being fun on the steeper stuff. Steepwater would be a bit more versatile - not as big as the Tanker, it would ride steep bumps better, while still having the slice-through power for smaller stuff. Compromise you'd make is less smooth ride when you want to open it up on medium and flatter runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Tanker is a big board isn't it? I'm looking for something at 165, that's my perfect size. I've heard a lot of good thing about the steepwater, would like to try one some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperburd Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm on my 4th season with my Burton T6, I love it but it beats the crap out of me in choppy snow. What freeride decks would you guys suggest for a fast, damp ride? You have nearly exactly my old setup. I loved my T6 156 with CO2 bindings. ...that is until I rode the Rossignol JDub 154 last year and was blown away. It's not as stiff as the T6. It has a decent balance between lively-ness and damp-ness. In addition, the Magnetraction lets the board be really short (and thusly very quick turning and responsive), while still holding its edge really well. On my JDub, I have been able to do about 270° worth of a 360° carve. I wasn't able to do that on my T6. ...and the Magnetraction has the other advantage that you don't have to be as much of a stickler about edge tuning to still hold an edge on the hardest of icy snow. I demo'd 15+ boards in my search for the ultimate freeride machine. The only board I liked nearly as much as the JDub was a Never Summer. The NS was even more damp than the JDub, but NS doesn't do Magnetraction. I'm 170 pounds, which means I'm at the high end of the weight range on the JDub 154, but the 158 just didn't feel right for me. The 154 is just the coolest riding board. I can't say enough good things about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperburd Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Are you riding it with hardboots? It might be the boots and bindings instead of the board.I found I had to go back to soft boots to enjoy riding choppy snow again. Even with a soft flexing board DuprazD1 I was getting a rough ride with flexible bail bindings and bts on the boots. The harshness is definitely from the T6. The T6 has a hybrid core of wood and aluminum honeycomb. It's wicked stiff (at least for a freeride board) and has almost zero damping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperburd Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Tanker is a big board isn't it? I'm looking for something at 165, that's my perfect size. I've heard a lot of good thing about the steepwater, would like to try one some day. Is there a specific reason why you want such a long freeride board? What kind of riding do you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svr Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Just curious why you think that a 165 is long for a freeride board? Seems to be on the short end to me for even the mass producing companies line-ups. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Is there a specific reason why you want such a long freeride board? What kind of riding do you do? Why not run a "long" board? I am not picking on you, just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraph Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I like my arbor aframe 166 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Here are the boards I would check out. You going to have to figure out what length you want. (not in any particular order) Tankers (they make a 167) Steepwaters Jones Flagship Rossignol Experience Venture storm That is off the top of my head. I tend to lean toward the big mountain boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Wintersticks might be worth a look. They have the ST model in various sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcarver Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 You probably want a board with rockered nose and tail. It is supposed to make crud easier to manage. Lots of them to choose from nowdays. Most of the bigger freeride boards are set up with nose/tail rocker and camber in the middle. I think I read that the new tankers are all rocker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 164 or 165 has always felt like the perfect size, with a 26 cm waist. I could go up to a 168 or so but nothing shorter, feels too small. I'm wary of rockered boards because I worry how it affects carving performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcarver Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 You might want to look at the Donek Incline. Comes in any width you want and flex tailored to your weight. Designed to ride all mountain and carve. Is even suitable for BX. A lot of guys ride them with hardboots as well as softboots also. Sounds like a great all around board to do about anything. I've got one on order myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 164 or 165 has always felt like the perfect size, with a 26 cm waist. I could go up to a 168 or so but nothing shorter, feels too small. I'm wary of rockered boards because I worry how it affects carving performance. Rossi makes the Experience in a 164/26, really neat board. It has a decambered nose and magnetraction. I believe the sidecut is 9.6M so it should be a nice carver. It still has camber. I will second the incline. Nice boards. Plus Sean is good to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted February 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Do the Doneks cut through crud well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buell Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm wary of rockered boards because I worry how it affects carving performance. If you get the correct rocker profile it won't affect its carving. You want one that places the full contact edge on the snow (or shop floor) as soon as you tip it on edge. At least find a board that has a decambered nose and tail. Old school cambered boards where the camber extends to the widest point of the nose and tail are harder to ride in chopped up snow. The nose camber bounces hard off the crud and the tail catches a lot more during the turn (for the pivoted turns). Rocker will absolutely smooth the ride. Tanker 172 as it turns tighter than you would expect for its specs, or possibly a Prior MFR hybrid rocker (but I have not tried it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420calvin Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Short list: Never Summer Titan - sick board, very damp, 5mm taper, 10m sidecut, really sick board (i said that twice) Prior MFR - haven't ridden it yet... but it's on my list Winterstick ST - heard only good things, supposed to be sick boards, ditto to above. on my list Arbor Crossbow - if you can find one... they're damp, but have pop too. slight taper in the older models, '07 or so, and a larger sidecut. the more recent models (they stopped making them in '09 i think) have a deeper sidecut and no taper and don't ride as nice imo. K2 Ambush - if you can find one, these are crazy sick in just about everything. I would look for stiffness, a taper, big sidecut, and a nice long nose that flexes a bit to take the chop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 My Tanker 200 cruises through any kind of crud, the shorter lengths would probably do fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvin29 Posted February 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 The longest Prior AMF with rocker technology. Not shure if MFR is available with rocker yet... However, I have seen a prototype in Prior's shop. Or, ask him to build you the BX vesion of FLC. New metal BX boards with nose rocker, rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gilmour Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Donek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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