michael.a Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Dont know where to ask, so...Im looking at a Madd 170 for sale and the 17cm waist thrills and scares me, I can see incredible edge to edge turns but the angles are going to be pretty high. Has anyone ridden on a similar setup and managed fairly well? FYI Im 6 1 and 185 pds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Madd 170s are 18cm wide. I've used both size 28 and 27 on my Madds and I don't have any problems with overhang. I am able to run < 60 degrees easily. At 29, you shouldn't have to go much above 60 deg to make it work. You'll have a blast on the 170. Its an awesome board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.a Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Thanks dude, Ive never ridden on anything so narrow and was fearing high 70s or maybe 80 front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeK.inVt Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I think 65 to 70 degrees should do it. I have 66 degrees on an 18cm waist w/ 27.5 boots and room to spare. I'm not sure what you're used to, but these angles are normal for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Dont know where to ask, so...Im looking at a Madd 170 for sale and the 17cm waist thrills and scares me, I can see incredible edge to edge turns but the angles are going to be pretty high.Has anyone ridden on a similar setup and managed fairly well? FYI Im 6 1 and 185 pds. 18cm the 170 is nice but the 158 is the one that really shines IMHO nothing quite like the 158. it's doable. just find the minimum angle you think you need and go a few degrees lower. many of alpine riders I've seen ride angles higher than they need to, if you drag go higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I don't like any drag at all. On my Burners (18cm) with 28.5 Fire shells and burton plates I am at about 63-66. And it feels good. Definitely more C to C type turns and a little less driving of the knees but it works just fine. Getting the (insert shameless plug for favorite new product here) TD3 intec would be good as you gain some room on the toe if you are really worried about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 past a certain point it gets easier. try whatever angles keep you at zero overhang. the lateral stiffness of the boots becomes the power after 75 degrees or so and its much easier than the 65/70 stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Houghton Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I agree, 29 mondo on an 18 waist means angles in the mid 60's, no problem. The strength of the carve will depend more on the lateral stiffness of the boots as compared to shallower angles, but that shouldn't be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 As others have pointed out, 18cm. It's do-able, I have 28.5 boots and that equals about 66 degrees. I'm riding a 158 in my avatar. For pure carving those angles aren't as big a deal as you might think. It doesn't make for a very versatile <i>snowboard</i>, but it's fun, and I think everyone should own a skinny board at some point and learn how to use it. It's a focused tool that makes you bring your A-game. But having been there and back, I probably won't buy another board under 19.5 again. I'm at the lower weight limit of the 158 F3, so I'll have it for a long time. I'll have to disagree with bobdea, the 170 is a wicked machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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