Dan Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Then he skis up to us. "What happened", she says. "I fell", he says..."I hit a snowboard bump". "Ski it if you can, indeed" I said. They haven't talked to me since. :lol::lol: Awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spil Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 MRG has more reason to do it than anyone else, they basically pledged to never modernize and kinda function as a museum in a sense the other three are specifically built for rich old azsholes, like these guys Exactly my thoughts, Bob. As for Taos and the others, they have no reason not to allow snowboarders. I have heard that Taos doesn't allow snowboarders because of this one really sharp turn right before a long flat catwalk that would be "unsafe", but that is just what I have heard and I'm not sure if that's true or not. Then technically the ski area should be open to snowmobiles, they are not using the lift and it is the national forest Except that it could be a legitimate safety danger for skiers/riders, that is on a different level than snwoboarding. Plus motor vehicles (except for "authorized" ones) probably aren't aloud on national forest land unless it is on a road/trail. two years ago got chased by skiers yelling "SNOWBOARDER ON THE HILL, SNOWBOARDER ON THE HILL"...who then pursued us into the parking lot and a full-fledged fist fight nearly ensued. The area was CLOSED for god's sake. I s*** you not. Wow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarderboy Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 If I'm not mistaken, some years ago when the long-time owner wanted to sell the place, the MRG faithful got together and formed something (a corporation?, a co-op?), sold shares, and formed the current governance with the stated objective of keeping Mad River as it was - gun-free, groom-free, and board-free - in perpetuity. More power to 'em! The owner - Nancy something ????? - had, in fact, allowed boarders for a while and had found their infantile behavior disgusting. (Easy to understand at the time.) MRG's in a resort-rich area, and Tex is right - if they don't cozy up to snowmaking soon, their days on a warming Ice Coast are numbered . Let 'em be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 the owners name was betsy, and after having been confronted about limiting parts of the mountain to only skiers, she took a snob stance and said "well then just dont come at all, and banned all snowboarders. which, IMHO friggin great idea, lets ban an entire gearset of people because of a few who chose to stand up for their right to ride the entire mountain, just like the skiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 The latest installment from the MRG xenophobics... http://www.madriverglen.com/press/Media_Kit/?Page=snowboard.html As I said before - create a login and voice your opinions here http://forums.skimrv.com and see how far you get...please, it will provide me with a source of entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 ive read that press release previously, alot of rubbish about safety and whatnot, i say bahh. and i notice all other threads in which snowboarders attempt to voice their opinions have been locked, resahcevaw, so looks like i wont be providing any entertainment for you anytime soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 ive read that press release previously, alot of rubbish about safety and whatnot, i say bahh.and i notice all other threads in which snowboarders attempt to voice their opinions have been locked, resahcevaw, so looks like i wont be providing any entertainment for you anytime soon Oh come on man - it's dead up here right now... Anyway, you see what I mean. I'm not proud of the dog poo some of those threads degenerated into but I was bored. And that attitude pervades this valley, even at Sugarbush. This summer I was in the grocery store and the clerk says "You shouldn't be spreading that around"...I was mystified what she meant so I asked "what do you mean?" "Your shirt", she says. I was wearing my TransWorld Snowboarding shirt. Last winter (in one of those skimrv threads) someone even said the halfpipes at Sugarbush are an "eye sore". I've bought my pass elsewhere this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 absolutely ridiculous, heh, I cant believe a clerk at a grocery store actually said that, or that its gotten so bad there that the clerk even needed to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I wouldnt want to ride a skiier made mogul pit anyhow. Keep the ski only mountains i say, we need a place where all the snobs can go and leave the rest of us alone:smashfrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 but....but.... its so pretty up there:1luvu: . besides, its our job to rebel, or at least poach a few runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 some of you are acting like this is genuine discrimination. It isn't. The indignance expressed is humorous to me. Couldn't care less what someone who paid money to erect ski lifts, still pays money to maintain them and other facilities, wants to do with those facilities. It's their business and if they want to allow skiers only and can profit from it more power to them what, do you want someone to spend hundreds of thousands or even millions to sue someone who doesnt want you there to let you be there? with the kind of attitude displayed above? a)screw em b)you don't have any "right" to be there. c)All this talk of fighting it and the energy that requires can definitely be spent elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 while I dont agree with what you say, I will fight to the death for your right to say it hehe anyway, alot of people dont care about the cause, that doesnt change the opinions of those who do. and for alot of those skiers, it is genuine discrimination, they steryotype snowboarders as a pack of hooligans who couldnt ride two boards, so they ducktaped themselves to one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 b)you don't have any "right" to be there. c)All this talk of fighting it and the energy that requires can definitely be spent elsewhere. I disagree with b). With the possible exception of Deer Valley, all of these facilities operate on National Forest land, which belongs to all of us. So what if someone who is disabled ( or differently abled or whatever is pc these days) shows up to ride at Mud River or Queer Valley or Attled and there only equipment is mono type snowboard setup, if they did not allow this person access they would be sued and basically could get ready to hand over the keys to the place. We as normally abled show up and are denied access. If this was not OUR land, I might agree, but it is our land. For me personally, I suck at skiing and could not access most of the terrain on skis, so I do feel discriminated against with these capricious rules of the ski area. Just from an access to the ski area and forest lands I am denied access by nature of my ability or lack of on skis. That is discriminatory. At the same time I do agree with c) as I don't think I am the One to carry on this fight. Go get 'em Neo. Why can't we all just get along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 and for alot of those skiers, it is genuine discrimination, they steryotype snowboarders as a pack of hooligans who couldnt ride two boards, so they ducktaped themselves to one. and? So they want to "discriminate" against those poor disenfranchised snowboarders? meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 carvedog Im sorry but your argument holds no water. seriously...does this matter that much to you guys? I'll bow out now. Just too irritating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 I'll bow out now. Just too irritating. Again? 3,164 posts and THIS is irritating? ;) I'm with ya though - said my piece...been down this road before. I do have to add that it is different when it's in your face every day like it is here though. Whistler anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 National Forest land, which belongs to all of us. Which is nice, but id rather it belong to none of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Which is nice, but id rather it belong to none of us. don't know what to make of that statement, except that you would support selling it off ( privatization - such as "Welcome to the Taco Bell Grand Canyon" or "Domino's Yosemite Experience" or "Allstate Lake Tahoe Ski Area" ) if not please explain.????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 carvedog Im sorry but your argument holds no water. seriously...does this matter that much to you guys?I'll bow out now. Just too irritating. I know it doesn't hold water, just the ring of truth. Seriously how can a private licensee of public land tell you/us that one type of snow sliding device is ok and another is not. While it is not racial discrimination, it is discrimination. Rather like the airlines telling you to get off the plane due to inappropriate dress??????? Just not right and at the same time I have my areas that I can ride without the discrimination. At Sun Valley we had three runs that were closed to snowboarding for about ten years, it sucked. Constant reminder of second class status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 it sucks but that's the case, just like they can tell you that you can't ski with skis that don't have metal edges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 it sucks but that's the case, just like they can tell you that you can't ski with skis that don't have metal edges The lack of metal edges or allowing snowmobiles on ski area runs could be a safety issue. One platform over another is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncermak Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 one could potentially look at statistics, and say that they believe snowboards are a safety issue. Or that their ski patrol is not trained in snowboard accidents. or many other excuses to makeit a safety issue. Long and short of it...Who cares. Lots of good mountains let us ride. At this point even if they opened, I wouldn't go. Why give them my money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Zackly Noah...this just in: Mad River Glen shareholders have voted to allow hunting of poaching snowboarders, by helicopter with automatic weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Zackly Noah...this just in:Mad River Glen shareholders have voted to allow hunting of poaching snowboards by helicopter with automatic weapons. OH NOEZ anyway, seems its wasted breath these days, fighting for a good cause died in the sixties i suppose. nowadays, everyone analyzes a situation to death, and losses sight of the real goal, freedom, as corny as it sounds, freedom EDIT: for underlying grammatical error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncermak Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 which is the real goal - Fredom or Freedom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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