Pow Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Ok i did a search on this but it still leaves me wondering... lets say im going to order a shiny new virus in the extreme series, but im torn between zylon and titanal! which one is better for what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 Zylon: snappy response, lot's of feed back Metal: smooth and damp, quiet ride When I compare the two.. in general I think: Zylon for "shorter" high performance carving board and metal for GS types of boards or longer stretched out turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 I asked Frank (VIRUS) to the option of building a METAL Gladiator. He said that this type of boards (Extreme series) aren't suitable to be build in metal. I think also of a result of that 3D patern on top of it............ and of course the ridingcharacteristics of the EXTREME Series aren't cooperative with Metal.: agressive, certain type of ridingstyle, pop, giving back and more in return what you give the board. That's all in contradictory with Metal boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted November 21, 2007 Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 giving back and more in return what you give the board.Wow, Virii are able to defy the laws of physics? That's some impressive board-building skills on Frank's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted November 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2007 so id be right in saying that they give extreme oppisite characteristics? (zylon=uber lively, metal=uber damp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor VonRippington Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 so id be right in saying that they give extreme oppisite characteristics? (zylon=uber lively, metal=uber damp) You got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istvan Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Pow, if you are looking for something narrow, fast, responsive then go for the extreme series and go for the Zylon if you are willing to spend that money. If you are more into something wider for EC style riding than go for the metal. It's a perfect fit for that style in my opinion. At least the above is my combo and it works well for me.... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogokoenig Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 As mentioned before: The materials provide completely different characteristics. Zylon: agressive, responsive Metal: calm and damp. It is a matter of your preferences. In Frank's factory I've seen the production of a Berserker in Titanal. Must be for someone of you guys. I would say, this is like buying a ferrari and then hanging a trailer on its back. If you are interested in a metal virus, go for the Vampire or the xtreme carver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus the virus Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 For all you metal - freaks I tried to make a nice toy! full Carbon Kevlar composite mix in combination with titanal! More snappy than pure titanal, less than a Zylon board! Bola ordered two of those beasts! Berserker titanium ( but we can do all models in titanal versions!) So Merry Christmas and " mirror mirror on the wall ...."! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istvan Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Frank, is there any substantial difference between the shiny and the matt topsheets, or it's just a question of being polished / unpolished. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus the virus Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yes, you are saving a lot of money for buying a mirror for your flat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istvan Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 The real upside would be to have pretty girls snowboarding in mini skirts on polished metal boards.... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 The real upside would be to have pretty girls snowboarding in mini skirts on polished metal boards.... :lol: Didn't know you are that desperate :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus the virus Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 The real upside would be to have pretty girls snowboarding in mini skirts on polished metal boards.... :lol: I totally agree! Without any doubt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 " mirror mirror on the wall ...."!OMG Frank, looks freaking amazing I am almost certain Bola will now be able to ALWAYS look his best on the slope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladia Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 I rode one day Zylon and metal board from another company. I was thrilled with Zylon board, Aluminum board felt somehow dead. If this is what most people call damped than OK. I always wonder about damping ability and torsional stiffnes of thin wide sheet of aluminium alloy. I think most of the damping comes from layer of rubber beneath metal and overall construction of the board. Virus carving series boards or Madds are nice examples of the boards with excellent ability to damp unwanted vibration and still be lively ride. Another interesting example how to deal with vibrations and high speed chatter is Rossignol VAS system. Once I took old board apart to see how this one is done. How I see this metal fewer? People want them, manufacturers would be stupid not to build them. They look definitely cool. That polished Virus is a beauty, but how it will look after a month on the hills, when any idiot will step on it in the lift lines? Got first aluminum ski at 1974, first precipitation harden aluminum alloy around 1905 in Germany. Titanal nice marketing trick. Very clever and catchy brand name for public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 This Titanal board has been in use now for one year, as test board, so if you handle it as any other board it should survive quite well: http://www.flegmatic-carving.com/gallery/albums/ft/DSC00172.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 that ****ing rocks, if it offered no advantage I'd not of decided to buy only metal boards. they do feel a little dead until you realize it's because they're eating up all the nose flap that other boards feed right back to your boots. if you're riding perfect groom metal really only shows huge advantage when you're going very fast but when it's rutted up, icy, a little wind blown, chalky, inconsistantly groomed, refrozen or crusty, metal is the best tool I've been on. so, 95% of the time metal boards are superior tools for me. the first run they feel dead but after you put in some time and get used to the ride they are great. The Madd 158 is a board that took some getting used to too...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 if you're riding perfect groom metal really only shows huge advantage when you're going very fast but when it's rutted up, icy, a little wind blown, chalky, inconsistantly groomed, refrozen or crusty, metal is the best tool I've been on.Aren't those all conditions under which you want a damp board in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Prokopiw Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 The real upside would be to have pretty girls snowboarding in mini skirts on polished metal boards.... :lol: Now you're talkin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragonUE Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 BS POW, YOUR NOT BUYING A VIRUS:AR15firin i wont let you, not til i get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 22, 2007 Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 Aren't those all conditions under which you want a damp board in general? yes, pretty much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted November 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2007 BS POW, YOUR NOT BUYING A VIRUS:AR15firin i wont let you, not til i get one. Youve got that right! I don't have the money... yet... but I want to know the difference for when i do have the money:lurk: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursle Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Interesting description of titanal boards. I am sure there is an All Boards Sports' inspired titanal/zylon-inside machine somewhere on this planet. So, do you get all these so-called characteristics in one package? Do I get a board that can be aggressive, responsive, calm and damp depending on my input and the number of balls I have, as Virus is known to do? Bola www.allboardssports.com 1-303-415-1600 So, do you get all these so-called characteristics in one package? Yes :D Do I get a board that can be aggressive, responsive, calm and damp depending on my input and the number of balls I have, as Virus is known to do? Yes :D http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc57/ursle/Vue/cyborg.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istvan Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 What's this? A Black Death a la Vampire style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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