Jrobb Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 So last weekend (Sat) I bailed in such amanner worthy of an Oscar in some of the fluffy fluff and pulled a muscle in my arm. I think it runs under the bicept from armpit to elbow...possibly one of the tricepts. Anyway, it hurt like a typical pulled muscle or a real bad cramp. Rode the rest of the day and was still able to use it but raising my arm over myhead took a few minutes. It's feeling better...a lot better now but today I noticed a bruise from armpit to elbow in the same area of the origional pain. I have never pulled a muscle this bad and am not sure if I need to see a doc about this. I know there are a few around here (I think) that may be able to help with some advice. Here is a pic with link to larger image (click pic):The area outlined is the bruised area. any suggestions? I've tried ice but should I see my Doc? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Takes blood from a rip a while (few days) to trickle down to the skin with gravity to become visible. Make it go away by standing on your head. But you can't diagnose anything over the internet so when in doubt see a real doc!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csquared Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Unable to give a damn. Stopping. Like the doc said, see a doc. A message presented by your local medical professionals' lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie00 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I'm not a doctor but I work with high performance sports team and we encouter, pulls, bruises frequently. My best advice is You need continue icing (15 min max) for every hour. You can take some Advil - motrin or if you have access to anti inflamatory it might help you. If you have access to an Hyper baric chamber you'll be able to get make the swelling go away faster ;) Other wise you can go with this simple principle. I : ice C : Compression (start elastic wrap from elbow toward shoulder) Don't keep the compression at night. E : Elevation I hope this helps. Seeing a doctor is a good idea. Unless it's like here in Quebec where you have to wait 6-10 hours at the emergency. You probably know your body best, if you say it's unlike anything you've had before I would consult for sure. csquared: if you don't have anything intelligent to add don't waste your time posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebu Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 You forgot the R... It should be RICE.. Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation. Don't forget to NOT use your arm cause you don't want to keep tearing it.. If you ask me (not a doctor), go to the docs if you're concerned (which I guess you are), but there isn't really much you can do for a pulled muscle besides the RICE thing. Maybe they'd give you some pain killers/anti-inflammatories or whatever, maybe a sling.. So since you're concerned, we can't really tell you anything you don't already know, so go to the docs to get it checked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 You forgot the R... It should be RICE.. Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation. You also forgot the B.... It should be BRICE... Beer, Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebu Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 Right. The beer is crucial. Though some say aspirin (blood-thinner) and alcohol (another blood thinner) don't go well together. But I say screw 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie00 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 beer and anti inflamatory are just amazing together ! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_t Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I would follow the ice and add the “BR” suggestions if you want. The only thing that I would do at this point is to see sports medicine therapist to get any and all exercises that would help in speeding the recovery of the mussel. This person should be able to evaluate the injury and let you know whether or not you need to see a physician. This should make it easier and quicker to get it back into shape. Some of the exercises at this point will most likely be very minimal and maybe even seem stupid, but do not underestimate them. All recovery starts with small steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csquared Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 csquared: if you don't have anything intelligent to add don't waste your time posting. I'm only making of fun of his avatar. However, I agree with you: a trip to the doctor in Quebec can be a long and unproductive experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shred Gruumer Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I pulled a muscle in the shower today!! bout a hundred times!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I'm only making of fun of his avatar.However, I agree with you: a trip to the doctor in Quebec can be a long and unproductive experience. C2, I have all Avitars turned off on my login profile, so I don't have to look at his annoying "give a damn" avitar or DSub's bumfight's guy or Shed disturbing skull guy. My $0.02, Hugh p.s. Shred, my BOL friend read your comment above and can't stop laughing :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrobb Posted February 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 thanks everyone for the advice...and some of the info I could hav edone without...Shred. i think I'll see my doc tomorrow. It doesn't hurt any more but I had never had a muslcle pull/strain that ended up this way. Anyway sorry if my avatar offends...I actually do give a damn.:rolleyes: Well sometimes Ido. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carvedog Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I did the same exact thing with same bruising except mine turned a multitude of shades of blues and purples from the blood and then my arm started to swell. Mine was a forward fall into powder with arms pulled up and back over my head. The doc said don't use your arm, charged me 45 for a sling that was made in china for 12 cents and wouldn't even prescribe hydrocodone. Every time I flexed my arm, apparently I was pumping more blood into my arm. for soft tissue damage the doc can tell what it may be, but I think the sports therapist route would be better, unless there is serious pain and it does not go away in a week or two. Or go to massage parlor with happy ending so you don't have to do the Shred thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimo Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Anyway sorry if my avatar offends...I actually do give a damn.:rolleyes: Well sometimes Ido. J Don't worry about it. You have one of the best avatars in the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 RICE is a good start You can also do a search for a practitionerin your area ,usually a sports med type, that uses a KINESIO taping technique. you can check out the tape website on line its fantastic stuff designed to speed lymph flow and provide proprioceptive input that is lacking in the damaged muscle. It will pull out the bruise quickly and provide support for the muscle while it heals. IT is very flexible and waterproof you can wear it for a week and not know it is there. It isn't latex based so no itch and irrritation. Fairly new to this continent originated in Japan. I have been using it now for just a few weeks and have been amazed with the results in my patients. Kinesiotaping.com here are a couple from quebec that are certified to use it Trois-Rivie’res Josee Matteau, OT, CKTP Val-des-Monts Judy Stanfield, PT, CKTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 here is a few from CA since I have no idea where san pablo is:biggthump Fresno Area Colette Jewell, OT, CHT, CKTP Nicky leRoex, OTR/L, CHT, CKTP Los Angeles Area Amber Fitchew, MPT, CKTP Christian Barney, DC, CKTP Cindy Bailey, DPT, ATC, CKTP Clare Frank, DPT, MS, OCS, FAAOMPT, CKTP Janey Lee, DPT, CKTP Mariko Edwards, MPT, CKTP Sharon Goldman-Salach, PT, CKTP Stephen Iversen, DC, CKTP Wendy Burke, DPT, OCS, CKTP Novato Robert Brandon, MPT, ATC, CKTP Oxnard George Toth-Fejel, OTR, CKTP Sacramento Justin Lau, DC, CKTP Piotr Serek, PT, CKTP San Diego Corey Lichtman, DC, CKTP Victor Runco, DC, CKTP San Francisco Area Debra Bleemer, DC, CKTP Julia Winter, DC, ATC, CKTP Santa Barbara Victor Chakarian, PhD, CKTP Marsha McIntire, PT, CKTP San Jose Area Abigail Vicencio, RPT, CKTP Helen Tong, MA, OTR/L, CKTP Jeffrey B. Lease, DC, OME, CKTP Karen Woodbeck, ATC, PT, OCS, CKTP Torrance Koji Uemura, DC, CKTP Turlock Jeff Walker, PTA, CKTP Westlake Village Johanna Deckert, PT, CHT, CKTP Aimee Antonio, PT, CKTP Alexandra Nuttall-Smith, PT, ATC, CKTP Alice Moroney, ORT/L, CEAS, CKTP Allegra Osborne, OTR/L, CKTP Andreana Mevoli, DC, CKTP Angela Sayour, PT, CKTP Angela Tognoni, PT, CKTP Antonio Ambrosio, Jr., PT, CKTP Brent Waterman, DC, CKTP Carrie Manny, MA, OTR/L, CKTP Cate Charlton, DC, CKTP Cathy Do, DC, CKTP Dave Salzer, PTA, MA, ATC, CKTP David M Bennett, DC, CKTP David Schlut, DC, CKTP Dean Silverstre, DC, CKTP Eileen Marie Coyle, PTA, CKTP Eileen Marie Coyle, PTA, CKTP Elga Oliveros, PT, CKTP Emily Fine, PTA, CKTP Franklin Cordero, PT, CKTP Fred R. Valeo, PT, CKTP Gene Caligari, PTA, CKTP Jay Kunard, DC, CKTP Jeanine Jensen, CKTP Jeanine Johnson-Caloudes, OT, CKTP Jessica Corkill, DC, CKTP Joe Aguirre, PTA, CKTP Joette Porteous, OTR/L, CKTP Jonart R Rosal, PT, CKTP Julie Bergmann, PT, CKTP Kathryn Wanek, PT, CKTP Kay Slutsky, OTR/L, CKTP Kelley Wung, DCS, CKTP Kenneth Dewart, MPT, CKTP Kristen Brandt, OTR, CKTP Krystl Armen, OT, CKTP Kyli Shelley, DCS, CKTP Lang Ngov, PT, CKTP Laurel Johnson, CKTP Lea Loveless, MPT, CKTP Livnat Wilcox, CKTP Magdalena Pertoldova, PT, CKTP Manuel Ernesto Valle, DC, CKTP Mary Jane Lowenthal, PT, CKTP Monica Hanny, PT, CKTP Nancy Dilger, PT, CKTP Pei-Ling Shaw, RN, CKTP Ranvir Sandhu, CKTP Raymon Tyler Johnson, DC, CKTP Rennie Lee, PT, CKTP Rodney Carreon, PTA, CKTP Rosalie Frankel, CKTP Scott Rezac, DPT, CKTP Shakespeare Ngo, PT, CKTP Sheila Wong, OT, CHT, CKTP Sherry Eakins, PT, CKTP Staci Cay, COTA/L, CKTP Steven Steinberg, PTA, DC, CKTP Ya-Yuan Cheng, DCS, CKTP Yuriko I. Wong, OTR/L, CHT, CKTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrobb Posted March 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 thanks Dr. I'll look into it. I've an appt. tomorrow before work. I'll see what my doc thinks. SanPablo is in the SF Bayarea just N of Richmond/San Rafael bridge. San Pablo J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie00 Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 just went to the web site, these are really funky tape jobs. I'll keep my eye on them for my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 I have been wearing the basic knee technique myself with great results. ITs two pieces of tape and I don't even feel them. They wear for a week in and out of the shower wet dray sweaty etc no problem and the knee aches are non existent. the best part is total mobility and very little tape so quick application and long wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie00 Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 do you do the tape job yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 yes its relatively easy on applications you can reach. I have taped my own shoulder as well and needed a hand from the wife to hold an end etc. knees are easy to apply and you can pick up the technique of off a one or two sheet paper with pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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