tahoetrencher

You said trade, right? Not Get 'er done.

Mr. Shady did it again; canceled all bids. But maybe someone got it for $888.00? Dunno. 12 days total on it he says...

My original 170 has the purple speckled base (P-7000?)

Was that spilt-pea soup? Come to Heaven, with your change from a Ben you can buy an $11 burger! But you might need a beer after chasing cuban-carving-better-than-gooding all day.

You might want to rethink the body positioning in your avatar before making further comment... Thanks for sharing Wintergold- you look great. That one knee carving thing made me cringe too Cheers from Tahoe.

But I will! I can scoop ya at the Tahoe Harrah's. It's an easy and not too $ bus ride from the Reno airport.

W here's T he F un without you? Bring that deal up to Heaven, It looks like a hell of a thing.

Maybe it was '87. Mine was red with multiple gold vertical stripes. Sometimes things show up a season "early" in ski towns.

Although I don't just "wing it", I do tend to rely a little heavily on my SB history library. Most of the inaccuracies you have so kindly taken the time to correct I got from a Sim's interview in a book called "The way of the snowboarder" (Rob Reed 2005, Harry N Abrams publisher). p. 35( referring to the 1982 Graves Suicide Six National Snowsurfing Championships) "Sims won the downhill...The slalom and overall went to Burton...Sims explains, 'I went down the sl course as fast as I could go without falling. So (Doug Bouton) goes down, bombs the top part, crashes in a spectacular crash, gets back up, bombs the last part, and wins by a quarter of a second.'" When you say "people who were there (1982) will remember" that Doug was the only rider not to crash I've got to believe you over Rob Reed( Editor, "Powder" mag). Since Tom was there he must be confused, misquoted or just self-serving. I won't even make my first backcountry descent of Tallac on my Sims 1710 blade for another 4 years. (I'd toss the book out except the pictures are pretty cool.) Sims said "contest organizers" were coerced by Jake at Ski Cooper, not "Judges". My mistake. Do you mean Andy Coughlin? I don't know where I got all those extra "m's" from :o Look what I did to Demetrije's name! I wish I had been aware of the competitive side of the sport in the mid 80's but I was only concerned with bagging all the peaks in my backyard over 9000 feet on my new backcountry sled. I never dreamed that I would retire my RC4's and never ski again when Kirkwood and the Heave welcomed us on piste in 1989. Thanks again Chris.

That Jake is the father of alpine, which isn't at all true. What is true is that both Jake and Tom (Simms) were both fierce competitors trying to put a sport before a product and doing anything they could to win events and therefore market share. You're probably referring to the first World's where the first 1/2 pipe competition was held by the Simms (Tahoe boys) team in 1983 in Soda Springs, Ca. Jake saw Tom in the 1/2, realized his boards could not compete and then boycotted the event. He wasn't putting alpine first, he was putting Burton first, as always. You're right about the Tahoe boys (Kidwell and Morrow,then Palmer, Kelly) inventing the halfpipe but earlier than you suggest. Mark Anolik "discovered" the Tahoe City halfpipe in 1979. Jake boycotted the 1/2 to try and eliminate the Simms advantage. This was an ongoing war, but Simms is much more the father of alpine, if you must. In 1981 at the first ever SB competition at ski Cooper Jake saw Tom rippin the Nastar course and convinced the judges to move the race course down onto the flats where team Burton had a chance. Burton and Milocivich still had powder skegs and couldn't turn on the firm. This year Tom had made a special race board out of solid fiberglass that he filed the edges on until "sharp". The east coast SB school (snurfer influenced) was to just bomb in a straight line. Simms was completing turns around gates on packed snow- Jake still had holes on the nose for a rope! The next year 1982 saw the first metal edges in a competition, again Tom Simms. He won the Downhill at the National Snowsurfing Championships in Vermont hitting over 50 mph. Team Burton won overall though (Doug Bouton?) even though the Burton rider bombed the sl, fell, got up, bombed again, he beat Tom by 1/2 second. Tom was into showing controlled turns so that Snowboards would be welcomed at resorts and he could start selling boards( he was already the world's #1 skateboard producer). The first roundtail board was the Simms Kidwell produced in '85 after Terry won the Worlds in '83. If anyone is, Terry has got to be the father of freestyle. Remember this is still 6 years before the earliest picture of an alpine stance, HB rider like Damian in the halfpipe in 1989. Although certainly a pioneer if Jake is the father of something it's more like apparel marketing. The reason everyone has to be in Burton duds dates back to everyone wanting to be Jeff Brushie and Damian Sanders. And there is certainly nothing wrong with that!

They're all closed. Snow is still good. We're hiking now.

than a beerenburger.

Trevor is alive and well coaching down here and teching during the day. Have you seen his guy Roger Carver? Must be 15 or 16 now. This kid rails, watch for him on the way up. Trevor is maybe the best all round rider I've hung with a little. I remember one day in the gates (just amateur fun) we were all hot on our sb specific boots and cats and all and TB comes in poaching on some little lunch tray (140ish) and maybe even sorrels like a joke or something (it's like 92 or 93- just before the primes), starts board grabbing around gates and posts like .5 sec faster than any of our best times on a 20 sec course! Yep TB is a legend in my mind.

I'm assuming you've got guns blaring cause you're the real deal. You sound North Shore to me. Even so we might have ridden together or surely have mutual friends. But you just posted 7 incomplete sentences starting 6 of them in small case. Most dedicated racers have the discipline and time to punctuate at least a little.:) People are gonna think you've been drinkin with Bordy (probably not a bad thing.) So flame away, I think I'm on your side, but give Casper a break- he's stoked. I think you meant to slam vslam?(Never underestimate the quantity of cubicle-carvers here!) And I've never ridden with Tex either. S Shore out.

was at least 45o as required. (1989-1990 season)

Synchronized uniform carving in uniform? Rippin on an uneven surface, even. If that's boring, then I'm old.

It was pink and gray with cow dumping graphics at the instep and a devo looking scientist with a beaker of magic goo on the shovel. It said "Aerospace composite slopetool" if I recall, maybe 1987. I had highbacks with reinforced sorrels at the time. Board seemed too stiff/ not enough sidecut to work for me on the groom- more of a downhill shape I guess. Thought about mounting the Emerys from next year's Kemper Apex(my first plates) but the Apex performed so well I never rode that Gnu again!

with the old Kemper Apex GS170. The asym tail was AT LEAST 45o so a forward rear foot was required.

So it doesn't dig in when I "clip and go" off the chair. Never really measure but I guess I would need a reverse taper board to be splay with this method. So I'm parallel. Most of my boards are 18cm so I'm about 66o-70o parallel. Are you sure this is so unusual? Maybe it's just me being old and lazy with too many boards and not enough bindings!

to make it back to Heaven with Cuban next February? I think I can take you now not HAPPIEST OF BIRTHDAYS!

Was the old neon green base, wide, symmetrical rossi, called, you guessed it, "The Alpine" At least that's what we all called it. Mine might have said 173A (instead of spelling out alpine- can't remember) Mine had the same Emery's pictured above. You could easily break multiple bails daily. But those were the racing ski boot days I think Burton was already making the "Alp" but the FP was still a few years away if I recall,( maybe they were out but still asym?) In a sense snowboarding has always been alpine (square tailed) as you mention. It wasn't until the boys started messing around in the Tahoe City dump (inventing the halfpipe) and pushed it toward freestyle/skaterstyle (Tom Simms) that we needed a differentiating nomenclature. Jake resisted this momentum at first I think 'cause it wasn't what he was good at.

Maybe Tom should change his name to Bruce? (Although that awesome red ferrari PR sure got no respect:confused:)

Thursday's 20" thawed hard and froze for a phenomenal transition. Fast and firm under the severely radiating sun 'til at least 1:00 pm. Had to abandon still good carving because of all the B-lining-flappin' starter jacket-funny-hat tourist torpedoes. Lucky to get down in one piece! The Hero carve was so good I felt like an outlaw.

Bruce was rumored to remark with modest detachment in a casual aside. Those in attendance thought it sounded more like a cry for "Ibuprofen!"

Cool, second fastest. Now when someone yells "Silver, there!" He'll think they are remarking, "Silver Hair!" 'cause I bet his hearing is going too.