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Wow thanks for the replies guys. Think I'm going to head to the shop and pay the $25 to ride this bad boy tommorow. I'll post a reply either here or on the other magne-traction thread with my thoughts on the board. I feel better now that I know it's normal practice to pay for a demo. Maybe I can talk the boys at the shop into letting me demo it for "free" in return for a couple hot waxes or something... Cheers

Here's an email I just sent to the "Contact" Email on the Lib-Tech Website. It pretty much explains everything... Dear Sir, I went to your website with interest in your new Magne-Traction technology and noticed your offering of demos at select distributors. Upon looking at the distributors I noticed one local to me in Albuquerque, New Mexico (4 D's). I gave them a call and they were very helpful in getting me setup on a 161W Magne Traction Demo board. I went and picked it up today and to my surprise it was brand new; ended up belonging to one of the shop employees. Apparently this shop does not do a lot of demo's and they were somewhat unfamiliar with the standard process. I left my credit card information with them for a $500 deposit and left with the board. To my surprise I recieved a call a couple hours later from them stating they had just got off the phone with thier Lib-Tech Rep and clarified their demo policy/process just to be sure. They told me they were suppost to charge an equivalent "rental fee" for demo's and any costs accrued from the "rental fees" could be taken towards the purchase of a new board. I was under the assumption that demoing boards was a free process (minus liablity for the condition of the board-just incase) and $25/day seemed a bit harsh to test this new technology. I could understand a small fee to deter people from getting free board rentals by demoing... Is this normal to be charged to demo a snowboard? I've seen tents setup at base areas with other snowboard manufacturers and there was never a charge associated with it. Perhaps your policy (paying to demo) is normal and I experienced an exception to the general rule of thumb? Your reply is greatly appreciated. I informed 4-D's that I would be bringing the board back to them tommorow (Saturday) to avoid any charges on my credit card. So my question to you guys is whether or not it's normal to pay for demoing boards? Does Sean @ Donek just spoil us or what? P.S. I REALLY was stoked to get the plates on the Magne-Traction this Sunday! Very dissapointed! :(

I have base insert suck on every board I own to include my soft boot setup. Both my friends have it on their soft boot setups as well.

Does your bindings have cap straps? If so my brother-in-law is in the market for some... Does anybody know if you can put cap-straps on other non-burton bindings?

Perhaps we need a sticky post with buyer/seller feedback or perhaps a rating system incorporated into our profiles?

FYI, this post is over a year old and was bumped by the guy above you...

Ouch. Sorry I mangled your name :(

Brian and collectors: Less than an hour on this one....I just stumbled on it while watching the Orange Bowl... Gnu 166 Looks like the one on the far right in Brian's group shot? Not much notice, but I figured I'd point it out anyways.... While I'm at it...here's a couple more old boards that end within 6-24 hours: Older Burton Asym with 3 straps? Wow Rossi Undertaker 198 Burton Cruise 165 with 5 hole 3 straps Sims 161 Asym? Happy boarding!

If you don't sell the package I'd like to buy the 6 deg cants with bumpers....been looking for some for a while now! Let me know, thanks!

"Who's up for some double black diamond action?!?! Last one down is a coward!!!!" ;)

Free Taos! I will be renting skates and riding Taos in January. Only reason is because I have a free lift ticket there...Should be quite a bit of carnage between me and my bro-in-law on snow-skates for the first time @ Taos! Are mono-ski's considered ski's or snowboards? Think a person could get away with a Skwal as a "ski"?

Pat, I have pretty much the opposite question. I'm considering trading my Ax167 for his Ax177 and I'm wondering if the 167 is the perfect fit for me and if the 177 would be too big. I'm 5'6", 160lbs, MP 26-27 boots (depending on the shells). Care to share your thoughts? TIA!

I have a recently aquired 167 that I may trade. I'm kinda busy at work so I'll email you when I get a chance.

I had some problems with higher angles last season as well. It was also my first season on plates. I could rip at 40's but when i went 50's and over things just got squirrelly. So what I did was increase my binding angles 3 degrees or so every time I went out so that the change was very minimal and I hardly noticed it. I worked my way up that way until I was riding 55deg+ angles. This method worked great for me. I wouldn't focus too much on overhang as these guys are stressing about. It's amazing how far up you have to tilt the board on edge to have issues with boot drag. As mentioned earlier tilt your board up on edge to see when the boot will be hitting the "ground" and you'll be surprised how far you can get it even with one inch of overhang. Forcing yourself out of a comfort zone to ride steep angles is just not the answer in my opinion. If you take small steps like I mentioned above you'll find yourself riding steep angles in no time without the harsh learning curve of jumping to 15/-5 to 55/55 in one leap of faith. In summary I would start at 40/35 ish and go up 3-5 degrees as you feel comfortable. This can be every run, every other run, every half day, every day, etc. Take it slow and work your way up!

Auction ended early...get an offer you couldn't refuse?

Please don't tell me your upset about being sniped on this auction. C'mon a Madd 170 brand new with a PTC tune and your max bid was $391! :p Bid like you want it! $500 would have still been a great deal!

Here's one of Mark Jeangerard at Ski Santa Fe on March 26th 2005. It was an epic powder day and Mark introduced me to back-country riding shortly there after. I believe he rode Burton Fires with TD1s 68/65ish and that's his Madd 180 (he just bought a Madd 170 too-bastard!). Still fiddling with my DigiSLR in the snow so hope to get some better shots this year @ SES! :) Link

Yo Brian! How many board and binding sets does that make for you now? :) Inquiring minds want to know...

Pics? Specs? Price?

Guys be careful when taking apart those heels! I took mine apart the first day I got them and one of them springs went flying across my garage. Took me like 3-4 hours to find the damn thing in all that clutter!

Last season when I rode with tunes I had Meth/Redman, Korn, and System of a Down on my whopping 128MB flash old-school MuVo. Hoping I get a Nano for X-mas and then I'll get back to this post and really answer your question.... The new Static-X song that is being played on the radio recently would be a fun song to board to. "GO GO GO!...GO GO GO!!" ;)

Last season after purchasing the $99 Sunday only season pass (0 blackouts) I got a letter in the mail about the end of April. The offer was a season pass for Angel Fire for $149 if I commited early. Should get the same offer this year at the end of the season. Sad thing is I passed on it as I'm lucky to go every Sunday as is. How's that for a deal? :) Still doesn't compare to the $350 A-Basin season pass that you get 5 additional lifts to Keystone and Breck with. Damn Colorado!

I would like to see an OT sub-forum and a Resorts sub-forum. Other than that it's fine the way it is. Perpahs we could break down the classifieds into sub-catogories (like hardbooter.com)? It's kinda nice if your just looking for boards and not bindings, boots, etc. Perhaps have Boots/Bindings/Boards/Package Deals/Misc.? Realisitically though there's not much traffic in the classifieds so this may be overkill as well.

I don't see why going fast would be a problem if you are in control and you are not doing it in slow zone.

Ski boots are stiffer as I understand. May or may not be a problem for you? Have you been here yet? It has the most hardbooting information in one place that I've ever found...