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What is so wrong with the boots we have now? What would you like to see in a re-design?

Also email me, xheacox@gmail.com. And send me your full address. Bob

Any chance his full name is Lothar Holzkamp? To eliminate any confusion Lothar was on a Kessler with a plate, TD2s (I think), toe bail on the front, Step-in on the rear, Deeluxe T700s, BTS and what I thought was a very cool Hammer brand helmut. I'd really like to know his last name as I may have known him in a Bludenz, Austrian mountain hospital in 1963/64 where we were both recovering from injuries.

For sale: UPZ RC8, size 28, shells only, slightly used, $350

Saw one today on the Mt. and I wish I had taken a pic. It appears to be a mono-ski with Telemark bindings and boots, one behind the other, i.e. 0/0. This guy could carve on it, do the bumps and the pow. He says it's been around for about twenty years. I'll have to google it. The only hardbooter I've seen this year, which includes about twenty 9:00am to 11:15am days on the slopes of Crystal Mt., is a guy from Essen, Germany named Lothar. I got his email so I will get his last name soon, I hope. He was riding a Kessler with a plate. After struggling most of the morning because of the very hard, nearly unrideable conditions I was pleasantly surprised to seem him struggling to make good carves too. He said he was involved with founding BOL or with something related to it. I'll have to get more details. Just following him down one run I can see how much one might improve their carving by spending time on the slopes with like minded hardbooters.

Great info.

A Scarpa is a model of Intuition liner, correct? What is an Intuition Plug liner? It really surprises me that a 28.9cm foot could be crammed into a 28 shell as my 28.2cm foot barely fits a 28. Although I know some 28.5cm feet that fit 28 shells too.

Thanks, Barry.

What is the trick to fitting the black plastic strap cap for the middle strap on Deeluxe 325s without ruining the cap and/or mutilting the depression it fits into in the shell?

I will buy them for $300 plus shipping which we already know is about $25 and I will take the extra yellow springs. I need your PayPal email again, Barryj.

As much as I love seeing awesome vids and pics of awesome carving I'd like to see a few vids of guys/gals who aren't damn good already, i.e. people who are trying to learn how to get down and suggestions of what, and how, they should be directing their efforts.....maybe a short vid of a beginner's lesson with audio.

It's a little late this year but I'm curious how much a person could expect to improve by attending an ATC. I remember about ten years ago I went to the last two days of SES Aspen hoping I could go from where I was then, and find myself now, in my carving progression, i.e. linking a few Norms on the perfect bowl shaped, pretty gentle slope where speed control seemed to take care of itself, to laying it down like a Corey, and many of you, do. Actually as I continue to remember ten years ago I could look down at my tracks from the chair and see my pencil lines cutting across that semi-bowl shaped slope slope, edge changes making it appear that the board left the snow. I was feeling pretty good about my carving until I got to the top of some slope on Ajax and I tried to follow Fin and a couple of other guys down the mountain. I couldn't even come close to carving with those guys. I couldn't even carve at all. I became so frustrated I packed up, drove back to Grand Junction, flew back to Salt Lake, drove up to Alta and found four feet of pow which I enjoyed on my skis. I hung up my carving board and went back to skiing until this season. Bottom line.....how much progress have some of you made because of attending a few days (I'd never get away for an entire week) of a SES, ATC etc?

I am glad to hear someone likes those UPZ Flo liners because they are well made. They killed my feet and I have never heard anyone else who liked them.

Very good info.

Throw the UPZ liner away or buy the shell with no liner, IMHO. My experience indicates a UPZ size 28 (sole length 291/312mm) fits the same foot length, i.e about 27.5cm to 28.5cm, as the Deeluxe size 28 in a 325, at least. The interior length of the foot bed surfaces of both shells is about 28.5cm long measuring from the toe to the end of the flat area of the heel. The heel pocket bulges out more as you go up.

Mid-week only for me or weekends for the first couple of hours. Skiers and your average shredder have no ideal that we're going to turn, and keep turning, right in their paths which can be disastrous unless we're very careful and plan our runs.

Never bring up US shoe size again....can't help myself and I hope it helps someone else figure out their MP size. My foot measures 28.2 cm. I can walk into any shoes store in the US that has one of those cast aluminum sizing devices and I measure a US size 12.5. Most all of mystreet shoes are 12.5 and have been for years. If my foot measured 28.3cm I might have a problem although I know others with a 28.5cm foot who can make a 28 work.

Great soft and hard boot carving, great vid. Why do I think this is so darn cool when none of my skier friends do? It's just one similar turn after another, over and over again. But, I guess that's all my sixty years of skiing was too, i.e. always trying for one great turn after another, especially in the steep and deep. For some reason hard boot carving has got me totally hooked and the remaining B-days I have left to drag my lazy ass up that mountain will be devoted to perfecting the carve even though I know I will be going it alone 99% of the time. Have fun down there Guys and Gals.

So far we've got 350s, 335s and 325s. I'm assuming all of those are referring to his new, to him, 325s. I just couldn't help myself from pointing this out. The used T700s I just sold here had those spoilers on the rear of the cuffs as did a pair of Indys I sold a while ago. Will those same spoilers fit current 325s?

Thank you for that Aracan. That makes perfect sense and fits with why some guys don't care for how short the back of the UPZ sole is and has a significant amount of heel protruding beyond the rear groove for the bail. I just checked using a pair of UPZ, size 29 which has 303 / 324mm on the sole and it fit, with no adjustment, into my bindings which fit my size 28 Deeluxe 325s with 303mm on the sole. The UPZ 29 measures 30cm for the interior sole length and the Deeluxe 28 measures 28.5. FWIW. If I want to fit a UPZ size 28 into my bindings which are currently adjusted for my Deeluxe 325 size 28s I will have to shorten the distance between the heel and toe of the bindings about 20mm.

Is the 10 taller? Is the upper shell any different? Is the lower shell any different except for the additional buckle? The 8 probably has a less stiff plastic than the 10. The ATB is a total noodle according to someone on this site, i.e. so soft that this person couldn't imagine using it.

Bobby Bugs, No prizes awarded for pointing out the obvious. The information I am hoping to get is from guys who may have tried both 8s and 10s and who may have an opinion on which they liked/disliked or why they bought one vs the other. No prizes awarded for pointing out the differences in color either.

Just ordered two pair myself. I'll let you know how I like them.

Thanks for the helpful responses.

Opinions please, UPZ RC8s vs RC10s.