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I think the best carving was experienced from 5:05 to 5:20. If only I could hold a line like that. picture perfect !

Hunter Mountain: 48 mph most runs I make (on the straights not carving) Hunter Mountain: 58 mph (highest ever reading... trying to make the lift on a sticky spring day from Racers Edge) Greenwood Lake in New York: 71 mph behind a snowmobile (I told him 40's, then I thumbed up to 50's which is a good speed. of course, friends being friends he eventually pinned it wide open and i could not let go under that heavy an acceleration). and that is what went down in February of 2013 !! I clock my speeds with a phone: HTC Incredible #1. it is dead accurate for speed, within 30 feet of latitude/longitude, and totally worthless for elevations (duh). #2. of course you can't get a carving speed because of the infrequent samples of a phone (double duh). #3. I have confirmed it with measure mile and with the "side of the road" police radar displays When I clock my speeds with my new phone: Samsung Rugby #1. almost worthless. very slow processor. seems to get overwhelmed by the gps samples flowing in. too unreliable to quote. However, the HTC is great. we use it to calibrate the analog water pressure speedometers in our slalom boats. Fun facts at 70 mph: the '98 corvette speedometer is dead on; the 2008 miata speedometer is dead on; my 2003 S10 pickups speedometer is overstated by 2.5 mph, my wife's vibe overstated by 2 mph. But here's the clincher: two BMW's I have been in (3 series overstated by 6 mph !!!). And my brother's 2011 Cayenne overstated 6 mph also !!!). No wonder all those drivers say that "hey, we are doing 70 mph and it feels like 60". Cause they basically are doing 60 :)

63 years old here. keeping it safe. keeping it fun. keeping me in shape.

No doubt, a beautiful carve in soft boots is a sales pitch that cannot be ignored. When you hear the screams of encouragement off a 6 pack lift, when you look up and see six skiers with their poles high in the air in approval you know "they all wish they could do that". You give them a humble thumbs up and continue on. Its a great feeling to know that they will be talking tonight over beers. Snowboarding is not going anywhere. It bounced off the top, its saturation point reached, it will fall a few points and then stay where it is. Soft booting here to stay. Hard booting is here to stay too at its present niche participation levels (unless they develop releasable bindings and I don't have to worry about snapping both my tibs when I take a high speed tumble). Skiing, will always be: 1. the better tool than a snowboard for most everything except deep pow and truly great layout carves. 2. will always be colder than snowboarding 3. will always be more far more tiring than soft booting, but less tiring than hardbooting (ie; the 1/4 day lift ticket is your best option). 4. will always be like bringing a gun to a knife fight. Too much power. It overwhelms most mountains. As a result most all ski areas $uck. You have to travel far, $$$$, and you have to find that big, mogul, double black slope or you just stay home and watch skiing on TV. I can entertain myself on any bunny hill around. In fact it just as tiring as any big mountain slope. Its all about the G's in the turn. Back to my KTM with the global warming thing killing southern NY for the nth seaon in a row now. You guys have a good season !

went to Gore on Wednesday.... horrible ! I can't believe they had the nerve to sell lift tickets. mud, ravines, bare spots everywhere. even the snow they had was often like a lake. wet, liquid mush that brought you from 30 mph to 5 mph in 10 feet ! heard Whiteface was the same so we bailed on that and went back to Hunter on Thursday: heaven once again, great cover, good snow, only a few bare spots. moguls everywhere. cliff and racers to die for. lower K27 GIANT fluff moguls. just awesome. anyway, if you are thinking about this weekend, Hunter is probably still good (assuming you like moguls)

Fortunately we have just concluded a highly popular thread that answers any doubts as to fault in this scenario: http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?37027-Bam!-You-hit-a-fellow-carver-breaking-their-board-Do-you-replace-the-board You'll note that many accompanied their vote with an empassioned defense (ie; "fundamentalist" defense) of the validity of the skier responsibility code. Particularly when it involves two participants, under way, and on the same slope. In that scenario it is thought that the uphill skier has "no defense", period: he/she is at fault. Not only are they at fault, it is concluded that if they are a "decent person" they should reimburse the downhill skier for any material damages to their equipment. Two would even made thinly veiled threats to violence if the uphill person had struck a member of their famly. So not only would the hill skier be responsible for material damages, they may also require the immediate assistance of ski patrol to defend themselves. Cutting these individuals a break, I think that many do not understand the forces of an aggressive carve on a "modestly skilled / modestly informed" alpine partipant behind them. Cutting others no break at all, I think they quote key phrases from the skiers responsiblity code to justify, in their own minds, that they pose no risk to others participating in the alpine environment just above them. Mainly out of selfishness, I bear responsibility fo those below me and above me. I look uphill and carefully calculate the amount of time I have left to throw high G carves. When it comes to the 360 it goes far beyond all that: I simply look uphill just prior to i and make absolute certain that I am 100% alone. And, of course, should the carve explode, I calculate where (or towards whom) my stored energy will carry me. I hate getting hurt. Trust me, looking at your own bones is not something you ever want to experience. Specifically, though, to the disturbing accident you witnessed: I liken it to traveling down a divided highway and striking someone coming the other way, the wrong way, on your road. In that case the argument that "you must retain a safe stopping distance" is mud in court. Likewise this accident is the same. No doubt, if evidence coud be provided (like from your sworn testimony in court) the case would be one for the uphill partcipant. Yes, its not law, but what reasonable person, on this planet anyway, believes that a ski slope is not a "one way" road ?

Monday was insanely good at hunter. Cliff and racers loaded with great moguls. good carving too. Coverage excellent.

impressive times.

My "def" for Hunter Sunday just became a Monday (daughter's schedule). Hope there is some snow left. http://www.huntermtn.com/huntermtn/webcams.aspx (( I'll put a wicked trench in front of the middle frame for you guys. That cam is in a good spot !)) http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Hunter&state=NY&site=ALY&textField1=42.2112&textField2=-74.2157&e=1

sorry to hear such terrible news. Hope your recovery is a swift one.

Its looking like a def for me Sunday. but I am going with someone who is only interested in moguls, steeps and go-fast. So I will be on soft boots for that kind of riding. if anyone else is there just post to this thread and I'll check for it while I'm on the lift. should be a great hunter spring day. http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Hunter&state=NY&site=ALY&textField1=42.2112&textField2=-74.2157&e=1

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thanks for the report. I plan on Hunter Sunday (JT you in ?). the hunter web cams are really good for judging how the slope is holding up. http://www.huntermtn.com/huntermtn/webcams.aspx

well, the current score is: 44 saints verses 7 sinners but before we start handing out St. Christopher medals, let's have a little test for the "saints": suppose.... the result of the accidental contact was not a banged up board, but your friend's knee. (a plausible scenario would be that upon contact you hit your friend's front leg (the framing carpenter) and his knee hyper-extended destroying his ACL. it was a low impact contact but the ACL is gone now and reconstructive surgery is needed. would the same deep pocket generosity apply ? I mean, would you be willing to reimburse him for his lost wages? figure at least 8 months lost. would you be willing to pay for the costs his medical plan did not cover ? figure at least $12k. let's say, in rough terms you are knowingly responsible for at least $52,000 of direct, measurable damages. Would you still have deep pockets? Or would the generosity quickly dry up and you become one of the sinners ? now I understand that is not the scenario Finn established for this thread, but as soon as this great thread has run its course I will submit one with that "slight variation". of course only the saints can participate. and then we will tally up the numbers to see what we come up with. in the meantime be careful out there. don't get it in your heads that your responsibility is arbitrarily capped at $800. it could lead to a reckless attitude.

I guess I am used to motorcycle racing. You enter "the arena", you "takes your chances like an adult". No one ever pays for damages to someone's bike that you just smashed. Its unheard of. I mean, if you start this whiny "paying thing" then it follows that you are responsible for the man's 6 months lost wages because of their broken leg (assuming the innocent party is a roofer & sider). Of course none of us will dig deep for that !! And then it also follows that you should reimburse for medical bills if the guy doesn't have medical insurance for his mangled appendage. Of course none of us will dig deep for that either !! I think the following exchange should occur between two grownups: "Hey, sorry about that. My fault. Can I help pay for the damages to your board?". "No, no, its ok. I was going to get a new board anyway. Now I have an excuse to do it". One exception: if the board was hanging in the "free ski check" when it got hit :D

what type of "racing" they be talking about ? traditional slalom skier gates ? or boardercross style ?

wow... that's unexpected. Tomorrow (wed) I had my eye on Hunter, or my YZ450 on the sand in Cuddebackville, or the KTM250 on my brother's farm in Clinton. I'll have another beer and try to make a decision :rolleyes:

I went to a Ramapo ski club meet where they were showing alpine films in the Ramapo college auditorium. Turned out it was Warren Miller stuff. 99.99% skiing. the ONE scene of snowboarding was a 6 year old sliding down the mound his dad made in front of their house. Oh, that night was nauseating... and then they called out the winner of the season pass at Hidden Valley and I won it ! :) I thought it a pretty unfriendly crowd there. People who wished it was 1975 again ... when they still had good knees, a head of hair, and their first wife. As for Tux Ridge... I think I know Ron too. My club races there every year now. I've cut a lot of trail on that mountain ! http://tristateclub.com

"The downhill skier always has the right of way You got a problem with that then take it up with the ski patrol. Sorry about your board. " ;) :)

Wow... what a great session, attendance and a great video .. Wish I was there.

I may be doing Hunter mid-week. There today actually (sunday).

got there at 9. cabriolet inoperative for no good reason; "wind", there was no wind. geezzz,, don't jerk us around mc !! pretty stiff courduroy right off the bat. carveable, though. very peaceful, nobody on the hill (we were using triple lift). as temps climbed it softened, then it got perfect and then it got too soft. rode granite peak too. be careful where you ride, a lot of dirty snow and bedrock beginning to melt through. unless cold temps return winter is not long for this place. this weekend will probably be ugly unless they get a night they can blow snow; otherwise, rock boards required for sure !

Primarily i carve softboots at freestyle angles on a freestyle board now. Obviously, Bomber does not have a great product line for someone like me. But, hark, because of knowledge gained on this bomber forum i have made purchases from the hardboot family of suppliers. 1. A Donek incline from Shawn 2. Freeride upgrade straps from Catek.

well, I was going to the creek today (tues) but after boarding hunter yesterday I can't move today ! not hurt just so sore, as only 6.5 hours onslope at hunter can do you. btw, the conditions there are fantastic !! great cover too. Claires was great with that new high speed lift there (we were doing 10 minute cycles) there. GPS showed me at 49 mph on the left side of the Claire donut anybody with a Android: download "Speedview". the free version. set it to run in "in background mode". check and reset it after every run. now go tuck ZeroG. the results may surprise you too ! cheers

"push-pull": To me this technique is the secret to carving narrow, double-black steeps in soft boots (and when I mean soft boots I mean freestyle angles: 24/12 or less where you are really in that awkward "heal/toe" carving mode (and especially so on the healside ! ). Now push-pull has nothing to do with dragging your body on the slope (which is just drag that is best avoided) but has to do with its ability to remove G-forces from the board at the most demanding part of the carve so the board won't skid out from under you. You see, by having your legs fully extended, and the board high on edge before its even pointed straight downhill, permits you to remove g-forces from the board when it hits its point of max loading (as it nears a perpendicular run to the true fall line) by allowing you to flex your fully extended knees (ie; you "pull" the boards towards you while giving it a slight upslope "point"). This takes a huge amount of g-forces off he board and allows it to carve a clean line under you. Remember, you can't "pull" g-forces of the board if you are already fully compressed. That is why you have to get your legs fully extended just before the board encounters its maximum g-forces, you go to be ready, to have something in reserve to "give back". Of course, once the carve attack is complete you get ready for the next attack by getting fully extended once again, ready to compress, ready to pull g-forces off the board in the next carve. And so it goes... back and forth, healside to toeside, until there is no more double black slope left... ahhh... too bad,, we are in the boring flats now. of course you can then take these exact same double-black "push-pull" skills to the flatlands and have the ultimate fun with it. all you need to do is preserve about 40 mph and make sure no one is behind you ;) but that's a post for another day ... (( the other 4 performance improvements don't rate a mention here ))