Corran Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I thought this might interest some of you https://www.theinertia.com/surf/why-this-snowboard-designer-believes-hes-made-the-perfect-powder-surfer/?fbclid=IwAR2kEKnfYLuBbgJlGKlXTxtyMvkKBr24PPCKguGhrwzgrE0najrU2HHrpbw Corran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) Check out the older (2013?) Venture Euphoria and Snowy Owl. Designed by legend Johan Olofsson to be ridden with or without bindings. Edited December 6, 2018 by Mig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corran Posted December 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Yes I know these boards. Very cool. Still different from what I've done although they do have convex outlines, he has a lot less outside curve than I do. His has flat camber (or flat center section) and then kick ends is still much more reminiscent of a traditional snowboard than a surfboard. I know it's a great board. I'd stick it somewhere in the middle between what I'm doing and a traditional "surf inspired" snowboard shape. It still has some "traditional" concave to the outline in the very tail, and 4cm less overall width. You can see in the attached overlay image how different the shapes ultimately are. Can you still get them? Lots of cool stuff happening out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poloturbo Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Very good of boards selection here. http://www.alternative113.com/shop/index.php?categoryID=3&show_all=yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 I don't quite get the surf shapes in snowboarding... How often one gets to ride only bottomless powder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, BlueB said: I don't quite get the surf shapes in snowboarding... How often one gets to ride only bottomless powder? Tony Montana was riding bottomless powder everyday... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 East cost icy slopes are bottomless powder for Chuck Norris. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Some surfboard shapers are now offering snowboard influenced designs, with sidecut and some tail flex to power out of turns... http://www.mackiesurfboards.com.au/boards/sidecut-fish/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 16 hours ago, BlueB said: I don't quite get the surf shapes in snowboarding... How often one gets to ride only bottomless powder? <Cough> Well, ... but anyway, I'm something of a sceptic, as things people say should work in bottomless powder (BC, with trees for sport) don't generally work well there, from what I've seen. I did not expect things to be that way, but that way they are. The idea that I could rip the waves on something like my Dump Truck wearing huge plastic boots and clipping in is amusing. Oh, that's not what they mean - they want to do it the other way around? No-boarding perhaps has some similarities, but I'm quite good at that and yet still quite bad at surfing. Should surf boards be adapted to be more like snowboards, so I can just get up and go? It sounds like marketing to me. In the early days of snowboarding it was called "le surf" in France... that didn't mean we had to paddle up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Pow drives one quite Mad, anything will do...every board from the Elite, Supermodel, Malolo, Land Lords, Flight Attendant has been better in the Pow...But even the Elite years ago, in Bottomless with Pitch, was a great surf stick...Surf Style is in our Minds, you cannot buy a stick that produces that somehow ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 I had my surfboard built to turn like a snowboard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corran Posted December 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 10:19 PM, BlueB said: I don't quite get the surf shapes in snowboarding... How often one gets to ride only bottomless powder? It’s a niche markwt foe sure. But there are plenty of people who hike, cat, or heli into powder and for this a true surfboard shape is a game changer On 12/7/2018 at 10:59 AM, Mig said: Some surfboard shapers are now offering snowboard influenced designs, with sidecut and some tail flex to power out of turns... http://www.mackiesurfboards.com.au/boards/sidecut-fish/ Yes this is the normal way to go. Almost all the boards in our lineup are likw this. Surf influenced but still snowboards in that they have sidecut, camber etc. This for most people most of the time is the way to go. But if youre in deep powder and really want to SURF, you need a surfboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Corran said: But there are plenty of people who hike, cat, or heli into powder and for this a true surfboard shape is a game changer But if youre in deep powder and really want to SURF, you need a surfboard. I never went heli, @philw is the most qualified to talk about that, but I could imagine that one could find deep pow only, on a good day... When I went on a cat, I definitely needed a board that performed on other stuff too. Even more would be true for hikes... Why do you have the binding inserts on the surfboard? Edited December 9, 2018 by BlueB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 Pow Surfing...yep, do a lot of that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poloturbo Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) I think surfing style in snowboarding doesn't really look as good? But that's my own opinion. Edited December 9, 2018 by Poloturbo Can't write in english... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 as Good as What ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 As good as water surfing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 Water Surfing? try Water Surfing for 3 minutes per Wave, at your local break...yea not going to happen then Come surf the Wave on Aspen mt. or some over on Milk...yea! Surfs Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Yeah well, try driving for 1.5hours on a picturesque beautiful highway, getting to the most amazing beach, putting on the wetsuit, getting pumped up, sunscreen on my bald head, getting the surf board and heroically jogging to the beach, paddling out into the paradise of surf ... and realising the waves are crap for the day... errrr... Actually, scrap that, see you at the mountain instead Edited December 9, 2018 by daveo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corran Posted December 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 3:56 PM, BlueB said: I never went heli, @philw is the most qualified to talk about that, but I could imagine that one could find deep pow only, on a good day... When I went on a cat, I definitely needed a board that performed on other stuff too. Even more would be true for hikes... Why do you have the binding inserts on the surfboard? There are plenty of places where a surf shape will be awesome fun, but you're going to need it to at least be able to "get through" mixed terrain. For that you'll need bindings. So you have the option of studs and ride no bindings, or throw bindings on. On 12/9/2018 at 8:23 AM, daveo said: As good as water surfing Different but the same. The reason snow surfing doesn't look as good to you is because it doesn't look the same, and this is because a board with sidecut is going to turn differently than one with convex curve. Don't get me wrong - concave sidecut is the way to go for most people most of the time... no question. But if you're the sort of person that has a quiver and you're happy to grab a board a few times a year for specific conditions... then a board that will literally turn on snow like a wave is pretty fun. I've added a less traditional graphic option too: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 yea, your right, any of todays Modern Shaped Skimboards would be Sweet to ride in Pow...though I have often said when in the Good Stuff, " Heck! even a 2x10 would've worked in that " Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Corran said: There are plenty of places where a surf shape will be awesome fun, but you're going to need it to at least be able to "get through" mixed terrain. And that brings us back to the shape... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 18 hours ago, softbootsurfer said: yea, your right, any of todays Modern Shaped Skimboards would be Sweet to ride in Pow...though I have often said when in the Good Stuff, " Heck! even a 2x10 would've worked in that " Cheers my 180 kemper bullit comes to mind, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corran Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 21 hours ago, BlueB said: And that brings us back to the shape... bingo 7 hours ago, b0ardski said: my 180 kemper bullit comes to mind, That's still a concave outline - of which there are 4 million 900 thousand and 62 varieties out there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ardski Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 my kemper came to mind thinking of a 2x10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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