www.oldsnowboards.com Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 My new "Short Board" was delivered. Tinkler 185cm Look forward to giving her a go soon. 18.2cm waist / Titanal plate 1500$ will get you one by next fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekdut Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Bryan, Why must you show us this stuff. Now I am torn, a Zylon Gladiator Virus or a Tinkler!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 That sounds like a pretty good choice! You can't lose! Mike's orders are into the summer now. If that helps your decision. I look forward to putting some time on the Virus soon too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Bryan,Why must you show us this stuff. Now I am torn, a Zylon Gladiator Virus or a Tinkler!!! No Question if the prices are even close buy domestic. Besides even compares to Virus Tinker's are really rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utahcarver Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I can barely type through my tears! That's a beauty board you've got. Please post action shots soon. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-PS Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Bryan, Is that a split like your other board? I can't tell from the pictures. I hope you guys are getting dumped on like we are, over 3 feet this week, snowing now and continuing into next weekend. Been totally enjoying my new baby too! I'd post pics but I've given the demo fleet including my own babies to the boys at my local mountain. As you know, the Tankers just kill it in this stuff! Have fun on your new ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Bryan,Is that a split like your other board? I can't tell from the pictures. I hope you guys are getting dumped on like we are, over 3 feet this week, snowing now and continuing into next weekend. Been totally enjoying my new baby too! I'd post pics but I've given the demo fleet including my own babies to the boys at my local mountain. As you know, the Tankers just kill it in this stuff! Have fun on your new ride! Ryan. No, not a split tail and no rods. Long story. Tell you on the phone some time. Looks really good , beefy too! Yep. 14"-17" last night , lots of snow on Mt Hood. Doesn't sound like Mt Bachelor got allot. Super dry pow too. Strange snow. Talk soon!! Bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted March 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I can barely type through my tears! That's a beauty board you've got. Please post action shots soon. Mark Hey Mark. Thanks , it is a really good looking board. Opposite colors as the 203cm split tail. I would love to ride it in the morning. Just too much fresh snow by the looks of it! That and I don't sit still for photos very good , at least that is what my Mom used to say Like most folks. I enjoy having the photos later, but hate getting them taken. Thanks for asking. Bryan Short vid of me at Mt Bachelor a week or so ago on the big board , taken by Galen on his point and shoot digital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Very curious, interested in your ridingreview. Looks are definately great Greets, Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil sunday Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Nice looking board- looks like what Anton Pogue had been trying to achieve with his Tinkler GS Board. Is the top plate titanal? How is the flex of this thing- compared to say a coiler race carve or donek GS board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpalka Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Very pretty :) I noticed on your gallery that this board has an anti-progressive sidecut -- what does that mean? I'm not really 100% sure on what a progressive sidecut is either. Could someone enlighten me please? tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Ryan. No, not a split tail and no rods. Long story. Tell you on the phone some time. Looks really good , beefy too! Ah - that must be the one that is suspiciously similar in shape to another 185 you own... Yep. 14"-17" last night , lots of snow on Mt Hood. Doesn't sound like Mt Bachelor got allot. Super dry pow too. Strange snow. We had no new, but the wind redistributed evrything very nicely. Backside of Summit was incredible - snow so light that "tracked out" was irrelevant, face shots all day. One of the bowls between NW and Outback was the same way. I did 48,358 vertical feet yesterday - probably a personal record. My legs are very, very sore today! (You can "track your turns" by pass number at Bachelor's web site - no need to add, unless they miss some of your lift rides :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ-PS Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Great video Bryan, Very smooth riding, nice tempo. Left me wanting more. I'll ring you sometime this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinecure Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Is the stance width as wide as it looks in the photos? I heard tell that Tinkler is making someone the "longest snowboard ever". Is this true? What length? Who ordered it? Someone up in Bend is what I heard. Who is that? Mike T? Doug D? Hmmm. Inquiring minds want to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Is the stance width as wide as it looks in the photos? I heard tell that Tinkler is making someone the "longest snowboard ever". Is this true? What length? Who ordered it? Someone up in Bend is what I heard. Who is that? Mike T? Doug D? Hmmm. Inquiring minds want to know. It ain't me. I'm nowhere near skilled enough to handle such a beast. I've seen Doug's Tinkler 222 and that thing would kick the crap out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Very pretty :)I noticed on your gallery that this board has an anti-progressive sidecut -- what does that mean? I'm not really 100% sure on what a progressive sidecut is either. Could someone enlighten me please? tom. correct me if im wrong, but a progressive sidecut is a sidecut made up of an infinite number of radiuses (radii?) within the same sidecut. in theory, the harder you press, the smaller the sidecut you ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 correct me if im wrong, but a progressive sidecut is a sidecut made up of an infinite number of radiuses (radii?) within the same sidecut. I always thought "progressive" was a catch-all term for "anything not circular", especially when the board maker doesn't want to reveal the math of ttheir true shape because it's either their secret sauce, or would turn people off if they knew what it really was :rolleyes: in theory, the harder you press, the smaller the sidecut you ride. Even with a circular sidecut, that is true - you turn tighter by riding it harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 by that definition, i believe anti progressive must be one single circle/radius? or is progressive getting tighter as you go towards the center and anti progressive getting wider? construction terms get confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I thought it had to do with what part of an elipse that was used and how it was used front to rear...though I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpalka Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I think Gecko is onto it -- I did some searching on the net, and on this page (http://www.k2skis.com/technology/tech_iframe.asp?Type=Skis&ProductID=80) found: Standard sidecut theory is based on the belief that they were to have a completely radial arc that is to say if you followed the curve of the side of the ski the tip would match the tail. This works well on narrower waisted skis, but becomes overpowering on wider skis, especially in variable conditions. Progressive sidecut has different curve shapes along different parts of the ski. Starting at the tail, as you move up the length of the ski to the tip, sidecut progressively increases. What this results in is the confident, quick initiation we desire for hard snow performance at the tip of the ski through underfoot, but with a more forgiving, less aggressive turn shape from underfoot through the tail, allowing easier release in crud and powder. So the reverse would mean that the board would have larger sidecut on the tail than on the tip. Curious what it means for how the board rides. This is a joke, but taken literally the reverse would be "less forgiving, more aggressive turn shape, allowing stronger hold in ice", right? tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Thanks I thought that was what it was. In truth the concept of elpitical sidecuts kinda turns me off...there are so many ways to use radials and taper adding mathmatical sidecuts into the build is more than I care for. This however is from a building perspective not a buying one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Interesting all this technical stuff. I just only want to know how this one rides, so that I can decide to buy it or not. Just hesitating between this new Tinkler 185 and the new model of VIRUS, the VAMPIRE (175 cm). So if there is any input on those boards please inform me/us. Greets, Hans. (not to mention a Tomahawk Titanal for half the price of the boards mentioned above, the world is getting more complicated with all this new exclusive stuff around, what a luxury). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Thanks I thought that was what it was. In truth the concept of elpitical sidecuts kinda turns me off...there are so many ways to use radials and taper adding mathmatical sidecuts into the build is more than I care for My 3 faves - Donek, Coiler, Madd - use 3 different shapes - parabolic (quadratic), circular, and elliptical. They all make their respective sidecut shape work frick'n awesome. Ride 'em and see... I bet you find many other characteristics of the ride more discussion-worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Interesting all this technical stuff. I just only want to know how this one rides, so that I can decide to buy it or not. Just hesitating between this new Tinkler 185 and the new model of VIRUS, the VAMPIRE (175 cm).So if there is any input on those boards please inform me/us. Greets, Hans. For you a Virus would be waaayyy cheaper, for those of us in the states the the Tinker is close to the same cost. Side cut...I was mostly refering to constructing boards. I have spent hours in a beach parking lot plotting radial sidecuts. I have no desire to plot mathmatical sidecuts (call me lazy if you want) or learn their implementation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 For you a Virus would be waaayyy cheaper, for those of us in the states the the Tinker is close to the same cost A Vampire will cost me about euro 1400 with sendingcosts. The Tinkler 185 will cost me about euro 1500 with sendingcosts, and then the taxes and other sh....... about 25%. So that's making the difference. So not a very huge difference. But there is a difference. Just wanted to know if this TINKLER is as friendly to ride as a VAMPIRE, which I am told that the VAMPIRE is: a friendly carv' cruiser. Would be welcome to my quiver since my new Coiler RC 180 II is a board that needs very precise riding. No mistakes on this board or you gonna be punished. Greets, Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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