RDY_2_Carve Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Anybody run plates on a Donek Wide/Incline? I saw a guy last season running plates on an Incline and he was tearing it up. Will it hurt the board in the long-run? What about plates on Freestyle/Freeride boards in general? Any horror stories with folks doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Ran plates on a Burton Asym Air for years, worked fine. Running plates on a Rad-Air Tanker now, works just fine. I'm pretty sure there's no trouble running plates on Donek's freeride stuff, lots of people do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zach Davis Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 That's definitely what they were made for.. The 164 Incline looks about perfect to me, for most off-piste conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 plates on freeride boards, that is. Started w/ plates on a Sims all mountain 160, plates go on everything now. If it won't take it, I don't want it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I've ridden an Incline 168 and a Wide 161 with plates. The Incline 168, albeit an older one rode great with plates, I didn't like the way my Wide felt but that's b/c I don't enjoy riding plates with low angles or with *that* much underhang. My opinion as a Wide/Incline owner is that the boards can handle it as well as any freeride deck, but if you really want the skinny, ask Sean Martin @ Donek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dudleydudley Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I ride plates on an Incline 150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terekhov Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 i've delaminated donek wide by catek olympics in a couple of days :( so be warned: use soft binders only (like F2 carve RS or other plastics), or tell sean to build reinforced board to use with such overpowering vehicle like hard boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zach Davis Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Turns out I'll be on an Incline this year... a few of them. Definitely a 168, later in the season, and a 164 in the next month or so... It's scary going to a board that short, but I need to start shaving weight off of my high-altitude set-up. I may go with a 166 in the interim??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skategoat Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I rode my Volkl Spline with soft boots and hated it. I was just about to sell the thing on eBay when I tried them with plates. Whole new ball game. I have a total blast with that board in soft conditions where I would worry about stuffing the nose with a true alpine board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark.Andersen Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Zach, would that be a *split* Incline? I don't think the drop from 168 > 164 would warrant an intermediate step at 166. Doneks "feel" long due to the sidecut and stiffness anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have an Incline from a few years ago. I asked Sean to beef up the insert area a bit and max the torsional stiffness as much as he felt comfortable with as I would be using it excusivly with Bombers and Cateks. He said no problem, and its holding together great. Zack- The 164 has been my mainstay off-piste board. Great in steeps. I picked up the Mtn. Gun 171, hope it can meet the same standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 When you guys are mounting your plates to your allmountain/freeride boards, are you still running high angles or are you running the same angles as you would running softies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I run angles in the mid-30s on freeride boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark.Andersen Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I run 45/40 on 25cm freeride boards. Actually, that's a function of the toes/heels at the edge more than any specific angles target. I've got a 23cm Coiler coming that will likely require 50/45ish. I find that lower angles are a must for me off trail. My balance at 60* just isn't good enough to handle non-groomers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I keep about 60 in the front for turn initiation, but back the rear down to 45 for leverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zach Davis Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Zach, would that be a *split* Incline? I don't think the drop from 168 > 164 would warrant an intermediate step at 166. Doneks "feel" long due to the sidecut and stiffness anyway. It'll definitely be a solid board... I've tossed around the idea of a 166, with a 10m radius and a blunted tail. Keep in mind that I'm used to a 172... Speaking of Donek and backcountry access; With Donek now being my board sponsor, you should have a pretty good idea of some of the things being considered. AND, if there is any thi ng in par ticular that you would want from them, a phone call with a req uest would go a long way I'm not say ing any thing... I'm just say ing..... Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 sweet deal! Sean seems like a good guy, must really listen to what kind of things you want. Does this mean you'll be going to Denali again, this time for the summit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zach Davis Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yeah, I've wanted to work with them for a while, now. Sean is able to crank out soooo many different shapes and concepts, and he seems really interested in creating a product line for the backcountry market. I won't be going to Denali, this coming year.. My wife is due to give birth in late May, so I neeed to be at home in June... the best season. I'll definitely be going back there within the next few years, though. This coming year, I'm looking at an October trip. I've got a few ideas brewing: South America or Shishapangma. Shishapangma is first on my list, but it means I need a VERY SOLID partner. I've been talking to someone about going after the couloirs on the South Face... we'll see. Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donek Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Plates on the incline are no problem. We have seen problems with the wide in the past. A wider board generates more leverage and therefore more force on the inserts themselves. Since that problem we have started reenforcing the inserts as a standard on all the freeride shapes. This increases the retention strength on the insert by more than 40%. We believe that you won't run into any problems, but I've been proven wrong before. I think you'll be fine with it, but let me know if it does generate any problems for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.E Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Nice code for splitting Zack. Sean seemed willing last time I emailed him, great to see someone who can follow up on the idea! I'd love to get a solid shape from Sean as a pack board- something in the mid 150's with a 10m radius. Short Axis with a big radius. Ahhhh...if I had the cash :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 board, that is. A F2 Breezer158, about 23 waist, Axis style tail, light for those longer packs in. I think I still need a board of that length with a bigger radius, about 9.5-10 meter. It isn't stable enough at carving speeds, I guess I've been spoiled by my Volkl R.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terekhov Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 When you guys are mounting your plates to your allmountain/freeride boards, are you still running high angles or are you running the same angles as you would running softies? i ride 42..45/30..35 on f2 eliminator ltd using f2 race titaniums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 I've ridden plates for several years on an Incline with no problems. 45/35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackDan Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 I've run plates on a winterstick 158 all mountain board and I am currently running plates on my Oxygen Super X64. I use them as power boards, but will ride all over with them. About 40 or 50 degrees up front and a little less in back. In powder they have been awesome. If I ride in spring slop, I tend to put a little more forward angle on the bindings as the chop/slop tends to push the board around more. The extra leverage of the wider board takes a little getting used to, but they usually drive pretty good on all sorts of terrain. Never had any problems with the boards breaking delaminating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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