Sinline Plates - overview and review

[WinterGold]

Background info:

After riding most of the major plate systems myself (Vist, Kessler, Apex, Bomber, SG, Allflex), I came to the conclusion that the advantages outweigh the negatives, so it was plates for me.

But I never liked the isolating part of the plates (think about the 5mm Bomber plate or the SG plate as extreme examples). I wanted my plate to be low to the board, light weight and it should provide as much board feel as possible.

Sinline:

When I first stepped on the original version of the Sinline plate (see picture), I thought I was riding no plate at all and I instantly loved the feeling when riding. This plate looked great, had a solid build, great hinge mechanisms, had a low stack height and a low weight and provided excellent board feel.

Coming from different Allflex plates, you could feel that you lose a bit of stability, which wasn’t a real issue for me. Still I was curious about the World Cup version of the Sinline plate (see picture). And just as I had imagined, the WC version offered more stability and power, but still kept most of the advantages of the original Sinline plate.

This year they added the Vision model (see picture). It is positioned between the other two models and does a great job as well. A little less torsional stiffness than the World Cup version allows you to react very fast and have a super fast turn initiation.

All plates come in different flex variations. I ride all my models in flex M (I am around 75kg).

I am not a racer, but the plate made a medal in the last Olympics, so I guess it works for racing as well .

Original:

World Cup: old and new version. The new version has a different spring mechanism, different cut and fewer parts for assembling.

Vision:

You can check more details on their website.

https://sinline.si
 

Have great season!

[slapos]

Hey Gerald,

couldnt agree more.

I did try a few plates too, ranging from Allflex, SG, Vist and finally landed on Sinline. Maybe not as extensive as you did, but I ended up with the same conclusion.

I really like the original sinline plate and I chose it for daily driver. Gives enough stability and grip when compared too allflex, without the brick weight that you get out of allflex (at least in longitudinal).

I did try the world cup sinline, but deemed it a touch too heavy for daily driver.

if anybody is thinking an allflex insert pattern plate for carving, look no further - Sinline is your port of call.

Also riding M stiffness at 80 kgs.

Cheers

 

[nextcarve]

Thanks @WinterGold and @slapos for your reviews. Coming from you two and being positive, speaks for sinline.

Hope to have sinline at Moon&Carve. I'm very curious.

[ShortcutToMoncton]

Thanks for the review. I’m curious how one gets a Sinline in Canada and will put it on my radar to look at further. I’ve really been enjoying the older-tech Apex V2 plate for this season, but it certainly has a slightly higher stack height; and I know the new Allflex/Sinline design is supposed to be a step forward.

Do they use the same insert pattern as Allflex? And is the Sinline lower profile than something like the Allflex H longitudinal plate?

The Vision seems similar to the Allflex H-cut category, although the Vision appears to be slightly heavier (only 150g or so). Have you specifically ridden the Allflex H-cut as well?

Finally, I do have a question that I hope you’ll take in the honest advertising spirit it was intended — do you receive any product or form of compensation from Sinline? 

Many thanks! 

[WinterGold]

I don‘t think that the different Allflex plates have different heights. So the Sinline should be lower.

I remember that the weights differed quite a lot between the Allflex plates from different production years (because of stability issues). So comparing weights will be somewhat difficult. The Sinline definitely feels lighter, but that is certainly because of other factors (less torsionally rigidity) as well.

I understand your question about the affiliation. But I arrived at these companies (Oxess and Sinline) AFTER a long process of testing and comparing. Only after I decided that these companies make the best available gear for my riding style, I contacted them and asked for their support. I am not advertising here as that would not help the community. These are my honest opinions. They might change over time, but for now that is the status quo.

I wrote this review just because some members were asking for it.

The insert pattern is the same as Allflex.

[SunSurfer]

Intriguing hinge design revealed in the Setup guide. A kind of rotating cam, a little like the adjustment mechanism for hardboot cuff canting.

Thanks @WinterGold

[Jack M]

Reading between the lines it sounds like the new World Cup version is your personal favorite?

[WinterGold]

I have a feeling that the Vision model will be „enough“ for me, but up until now I have ridden the WC version the most.

[SashaSidorov]

What board did you ride with Sinline WC plate would like to listen your experience ? I just installed one on GS and having a bunch of scary stuff about it. Thanks 

[barryj]

Hey WC,

Love the info as I've been on the cusp of going with an Allflex/Sinline board pattern...for years! (Allflex/Sinline...what is the designation these days?)  but I still have a death grip on all my UPM boards and plates!

So school me as to what I'm missing still riding old tech UPM pattern boards/true UPM plates (not 4x4 adapters) and what this "New" Plate pattern is going to do for me and where do you buy these new fangled Plates?

I might make the leap, just need a little shove!

 

[slapos]

On 10/13/2024 at 6:51 PM, SashaSidorov said:

What board did you ride with Sinline WC plate would like to listen your experience ? I just installed one on GS and having a bunch of scary stuff about it. Thanks 

Sasha - this depends on your riding skill. GS185 is a lot of board to handle, requires a ton of skill - not to mention balls of steel given the supersonic speeds it can travel at.

If you are up for a jump to hyper space - just do it. People's answers will all be biased on their riding skills - so take them with pinch of salt.

14 hours ago, barryj said:

Hey WC,

Love the info as I've been on the cusp of going with an Allflex/Sinline board pattern...for years! (Allflex/Sinline...what is the designation these days?)  but I still have a death grip on all my UPM boards and plates!

So school me as to what I'm missing still riding old tech UPM pattern boards/true UPM plates (not 4x4 adapters) and what this "New" Plate pattern is going to do for me and where do you buy these new fangled Plates?

I might make the leap, just need a little shove!

 

What sort of plate did you ride before? Was a full isolation bomber style plate or some different UPM mount i.e. F Plate from donek?

Sinline is a semisolation plate, it has got a a very nice design for the hinges, that doesnt block or eat snow like allflex does.

Also what is your purpose in riding ? are you racing gates or carving only?

I personally find sinline great for freecarving (the original one) - but again i find it great for my riding style and conditions that I usually have at my local hill (mostly man made snow etc)

I tried world cup, but it required much more up/down work to make the board bend, which felt great, but I am too short to make it last all day. 

On original sinline i can blast all day along.

 

 

Edited October 15 by slapos

[barryj]

On 10/15/2024 at 3:20 AM, slapos said:

What sort of plate did you ride before? Was a full isolation bomber style plate or some different UPM mount i.e. F Plate from donek?

Hey WC,

I've ridden them all, but still ride Donek  F plate for my Coiler Angrry 160 and Bomber V2 5m for longer board lengths like best on a K168.  Using Bomber TD3 Sidewinder Step In's on Bomber BP lower assembly.

No racing, just constantly trying to improve my hard charging carving.

So what's the advantage for a non racer to go with a Allflex/Sinline setup over UPM?  It's a hefty price tag for the new generation plates from my little research. 

[Jack M]

10 minutes ago, barryj said:

So what's the advantage for a non racer to go with a Allflex/Sinline setup over UPM?

Availability.  Also all UPM plates decouple the rider from the board.  Allflex/Sinline are mostly board flex modifiers.  Depends on what you prefer.  You can see from World Cup which mechanism is faster and more powerful.

[barryj]

2 hours ago, Jack M said:

You can see from World Cup which mechanism is faster and more powerful.

Yea that's obvious Jack,  for racers.

Allflex/Sinline is the current tech and UPM is old school.... but for a non racing advanced intermediate old fart like me what's that new tech price tag gonna get me over my UPM setups?

Can said new  tech on a K168 outperform the Ice Slayer UPM setup K168 with Bomber v2 plate??   Don't get me wrong I would love to try the new tech and almost had a Allflex pattern board lined up last spring but sale fell thru.   Just not sure the $$ price tag is worth changing systems, having to learn a new system for me.

I guess I need to try it to find out...ugh!

[Jack M]

It is really just about feel and you can't know unless you try it.  For example I enjoyed both the Donek AF and Apex X-Plate before I tried an Allflex.  The Donek AF was tops for edge hold.  I liked the Apex better as an all-around choice due to less height, weight, better snow feel, and hey, bling factor.  Then I tried an Allflex spring plate on SL and a regular Allflex plate on GS.  Suddenly the Apex felt vague and disconnected.  YMMV.  It's hard to recommend an Allflex spring plate for freecarving though because it's so heavy and unforgiving, especially with Bombers. 

I determined the biggest value I personally get out of a plate is torsional stiffness.  So I have my Wintersticks built with extra torsional stiffness (like, a lot) and I'm happy.