barryj Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) So I picked up a fairly new and hardly ridden Rev 163 that's even UPM! Wow! Love the Rev ride! It's the Go-kart turny little bandit I was looking for! So I direct transferred the UPM AF plate with BP bindings off the K168 (which transformed an already Wow! board into an OMG Ride!) and put it on the Rev and surprisingly that was an OMG Terrible Experience! Really wouldn't track at any speed, just felt wrong and considerable effort! It was so bad I was convinced I must have reversed the bindings fore and aft in my haste....but nope I had them on correct! Was really anticipating the AF plate was going to kick the Wow! level Rev into the K168 OMG! Ride level.....but Nope! Am I missing something here??? What do the Sages say?? Edited January 16, 2022 by barryj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big mario Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Some sticks like to be barebacked Mario Edited January 16, 2022 by big mario 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Put a Donek F-plate on it, they're designed for SL boards, and the 163 Rev, while great w/o a plate was developed with input from racers who were mounting something like an F-plate, Vist or K-plate. I just rode an F-plate for the first time the other day and I love it. I put it on my 175 Rev. It's the prototype Sean made for my daughter. She preferred it to the Vist and K-plate because it was more compliant, in that it didn't change the flex of the board as much. Yet it still dampens the ride, absorbing bumps & ruts, and provides superb even edge pressure. The AF is probably better on a longer board, like 175 or greater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 I tried a 4mm BP on my REV 163 and it SUCKED! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 11 hours ago, rjnakata said: I tried a 4mm BP on my REV 163 and it SUCKED! Not surprised. Really meant for "GS" boards. Someone's looking out for you @barryj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bigwavedave said: Someone's looking out for you @barryj Geez Louise! I'm becoming the Donek Plate Consortium!! 1st dibs are in......... Edited January 16, 2022 by barryj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, barryj said: Geez Louise! I'm becoming the Donek Plate Consortium!! The Donek site says the UMP version gives the best ride, I have the original 4x4 prototype. I posted my impression of the F-plate here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kneel Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Never saw this coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 17 hours ago, bigwavedave said: The AF is probably better on a longer board, like 175 or greater. The AF UPM Really amped up the already great ride on my K168.......that's why I thought it should work also on my Donek UPM 163. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, barryj said: The AF UPM Really amped up the already great ride on my K168.......that's why I thought it should work also on my Donek UPM 163. Only rode an AF once when Sean set me up with it on a 180 Rev. He did say it was supposed to be more compliant (rider friendly) than his A plate. I suppose it's right there in the names of his plates; A-plate(the full iso), F-plate (vist/K-plate types), AF plate (combination of the 2). My memory tells me the AF didn't have that hoverboard feel of the Boilerplate, but I still felt somewhat detached from the board. The F-plate has a much nicer board feel, like it's part of the board. But, that's on my 175 Rev. I suspect it might a have more noticeable effect on the flex of a shorter board, but not near as much as the AF or Boilerplate. I've been to a lot of races over the years and don't recall ever seeing a full isolation plate on a SL board. Always something like Vist/F-plate/K-plate and very occasionally Geckos, until Allflex appeared. There must be a reason... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 18 hours ago, barryj said: The AF UPM Really amped up the already great ride on my K168.......that's why I thought it should work also on my Donek UPM 163. Seconded. The AF turned my K168 into a hockey skate. Surprised at Barry's experience on the Rev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 The Mighty Quinn has spoken! Shaun says AF plate is for GS boards and the F is for SL boards. So just call me the Donek Plate Consortium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, barryj said: The Mighty Quinn has spoken! Shaun says AF plate is for GS boards and the F is for SL boards. So just call me the Donek Plate Consortium What I said Good to get confirmation from the source. Does he still have AF plates for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, bigwavedave said: Does he still have AF plates for sale? I didnt ask....but website says Yes..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwavedave Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 I think I meant, does he still have "F" plates for sale. I see it on the Donek website, 4x4 only. Regardless, I rode up the chair with Thedo (USA head alpine coach) last week at the NorAms and he was riding an F-plate on his Rev 163. Said he really prefers it for free riding compared to other plates. Said All-Flex great for race courses, in his opinion, not so much for recreational carving. btw @barryjI hope you're doing better. Looked like a bad crash. Several years ago I was hit similarly, as I was coming to stop at the end of the lift line. A time when you think you're safe from bombers. A skier rode up the back of my 1 week old Rev pealing off the metal edge at the tail and knocking me down. I think he was totally out of control, no attempt to stop. I came out ok. He took quite awhile to get up (initially I swore at him, then I eventually asked him if he was okay). He never apologized–just got up and walked away. I got the vibe he thought it was my fault that he ran into me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, bigwavedave said: Thedo (USA head alpine coach) last week at the NorAms and he was riding an F-plate on his Rev 163. Said he really prefers it for free riding compared to other plates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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