daveo Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) About to get my favourite board's base flattened and the structure ground back in, but I don't really know anything about base structures. I'm taking it to this particular shop since the tech who does the work there is an ex Austrian world cup gs snowboard rider and he does most of this state's race skis and snowboard. I think the machine he uses a Wintersteiger, although I don't know which model. Is there anything in particular I should be looking or asking for? I'll just be getting the base grind done. I'll be doing my edges and wax and stuff myself, of course. Edited January 6, 2019 by daveo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wulf Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 ... would go for medium coarse "all-round" structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Right. I'll keep that in mind, thanks! I'm on quite dry and reasonably fresh snow in Japan basically always, I wonder if that affects things? Edited January 6, 2019 by daveo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 Generally, you want a coarser structure for snow with a higher water content and rounder crystals, and finer structure for lower water content and sharper crystals. Heavy structure on cold/dry/packed can make a board grabby and harder to 'drift'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Beckmann AG said: finer structure for lower water content and sharper crystals. Heavy structure on cold/dry/packed can make a board grabby and harder to... Right. So I'm looking for a finer structure. Any particular pattern? Are patterns even a thing? 1 hour ago, Beckmann AG said: ... 'drift'. Drift? Whaddoyamean drift? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckmann AG Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, daveo said: Drift? Whaddoyamean drift? There's more to carving than merely railing. A more common circumstance where you might like your board to drift a little, is on the approach to a lift line ( or similar), where momentum is falling, and a grabby base predisposes you do embarrassment, or worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 Ah RIP Colin McRay He lives on in the legendary STi 22B, though! Right. So fine structure for dry snow. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svr Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 6 hours ago, daveo said: Right. So I'm looking for a finer structure. Any particular pattern? Are patterns even a thing? Drift? Whaddoyamean drift? Structure Patterns are a thing, but be careful about choosing to have them done. Most shops do standard diagonal structures, but some of the higher end tuners can make some pretty wild structures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, svr said: Structure Patterns are a thing, but be careful about choosing to have them done. Most shops do standard diagonal structures, but some of the higher end tuners can make some pretty wild structures. I see. Any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 lmgtfy: top result- https://www.racewax.com/base-structure-theory/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svr Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, lonbordin said: lmgtfy: top result- https://www.racewax.com/base-structure-theory/ Thanks, that was perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 17 hours ago, daveo said: About to get my favourite board's base flattened and the structure ground back in, but I don't really know anything about base structures. I'm taking it to this particular shop since the tech who does the work there is an ex Austrian world cup gs snowboard rider and he does most of this state's race skis and snowboard. I think the machine he uses a Wintersteiger, although I don't know which model. Is there anything in particular I should be looking or asking for? I'll just be getting the base grind done. I'll be doing my edges and wax and stuff myself, of course. If your racing the choice you make can win or lose the race . If your a recreational rider i wouldn't get to hung up on the exact structure. Flat base and sharp edges are your friend under all conditions. Having the base ground away for the sake of a cosmetics is something i would pass on if the board was a favorite that i was planing to keep for a while. Wax can go a long way to keep a board sliding fast. Ptex base really isn't very thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, lowrider said: If your racing the choice you make can win or lose the race . If your a recreational rider i wouldn't get to hung up on the exact structure. Flat base and sharp edges are your friend under all conditions. Having the base ground away for the sake of a cosmetics is something i would pass on if the board was a favorite that i was planing to keep for a while. Wax can go a long way to keep a board sliding fast. Okay cool. Thanks. I'm not really clued up on what to get in terms of pattern, so perhaps I'll leave it for the tech to decide. I do prefer to know myself though So far I know I need a flat base and fine structure! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo Posted January 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 hours ago, lonbordin said: lmgtfy: top result- https://www.racewax.com/base-structure-theory/ Yep read that. Was more curious if there is something specific to alpine boards I should be looking for, or if I just roll with something more generic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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