wesleywarren Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Got this girl up to 50 Mph and the front end started to float on groomers. It felt like a powder day.. I think I'm on to something big. No pun intended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleywarren Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) This girl has given me a whole new stoke on trench surfing. Worth every penny. If you have the means I highly recommend picking one up. "Ferris Bueller" Edited March 17, 2017 by wesleywarren 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmetroland Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 hours ago, wesleywarren said: I have to say I'm enjoying the "Path of Destruction" photo series. The charred couch image was more stirring, but the windswept alley is an equally poetic statement about the awesome power of the Pogo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Damn, nice quiver! Would love to see video of you riding that 270. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 When you have that thing strapped to the rack doesn't the car lift off the ground at 50 mph. too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) No, because that's an FJ80 Land-Cruiser; It won't go quite fast enough to generate lift! But, it'll kick your butt in any off-road exploration! I'm a fan of FJ's (well, the older ones!). But, then, my Dad drove International Pickups, Travel-all's, and Scouts, so...No Hummer Lovin' here! Edited March 18, 2017 by Eric Brammer aka PSR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) So, Wes, you started to feel what I got into with the old '88-'89 Safari Long-Comp [205 cm,Burton raceboard] I managed to wrangle away from the Coghlan's in '92. See, Paul Wren had already figured some nifty stuff out by then, including using subtle base beveling, quadratic sidecut [think of a clothes-line, but weighted such that the bigger weights are at the middle, with progressively smaller weights going outwards], dual-cambered sections, and a much softer nose than tail.. It would easily 'dance' in soft snow with much shorter boards, and it was docile, but a chore to maneuver at pedestrian speeds. Once up to optimum, around 35+, it came into it's own, and carved effortlessly (recall, please, the solid, three-strap binders of the era!) until about 50 mph... then, an odd 'floating' started at any flat-between-turns, as the bendable nose would 'suck air' under it and Lift, often fluttering for a bit (this is why 'Link' modded Sims 190's and 210's had an odd cut-out triangle within the nose, to let Air Thru! Steve Link was a Genius in Longboards; note SUMMIT, FARMER, Longboards). So, at 50 or above, between turns, you'd get 'lift', and if only moderately arc-ed upon, the 'lift' would "hold" through part of the turn. I once jumped on Okemo's 'Exhibition' trail just after the Headwall (back when it still had a cliff-face to it), but into a slight headwind. The result was low-level flight. I cleared from tower 18 to tower 17 about 2-3 feet above the snow, but couldn't put her down! I was doing speed of the mid-40's or so.That was the longest jump I ever did, some 600 yards, but, really LOW to the snow! I also ran 'around' through "Arrow" from top to bottom in less than two minutes (on a powder day!) to the Sugar-shack near the base, racing a Skier who ran straight down Nor-Easter on Atomic 210's. I beat him, soundly (I was OUT OF my 6-buckle Softies when he got there!). That was a mile-a-minute average run, btw. So, really LONG boards will do some neat, though unexpected, things over, in, and on snow! Just don't go UNDER the snow!! Edited March 18, 2017 by Eric Brammer aka PSR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleywarren Posted March 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) A very amazing feeling.. It felt like I had an air pocket under my front foot and I couldn't push it down.. My turning was in the back forks. Effortless turns.. Small turns but very quick toe to heel. Edited March 18, 2017 by wesleywarren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Yup, that's 'sub-surface' lift, only available on a very select group of longboard snowboards! Glad you got it, and I hope it doesn't do anything too weird to you in the event! I've had other riders doubt my recollections, and observations, but, I am not making-up what I've observed and felt, let alone 'rode-out'!! Longboards, run at their limits, are something else! They will delight you. But stay within YOUR limits when doing what the board wishes to do! It's kinda like riding a Horse through a low hanging Orchard; You can ride as fast as you can duck, given that the Horse doesn't Buck mid-stride! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 I get annoyed at local crowds stepping on my board's tail in the lift line. I'd be annoyed at the TWO people standing on the tail with that thing! ;) Looks highly impractical, and I'd love to try it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleywarren Posted March 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 I only ride her during the week when there's only a few hundred people at my local resort.. On a busy day I walk threw the line with her until I'm in the loading area. Super practical if your trying to get a true longboard surf feel. I go super loose on my hardboots about 60% it's all about letting her do the work for you once you reach 35mph+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleywarren Posted March 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Eric Brammer aka PSR said: Yup, that's 'sub-surface' lift, only available on a very select group of longboard snowboards! Glad you got it, and I hope it doesn't do anything too weird to you in the event! I've had other riders doubt my recollections, and observations, but, I am not making-up what I've observed and felt, let alone 'rode-out'!! Longboards, run at their limits, are something else! They will delight you. But stay within YOUR limits when doing what the board wishes to do! It's kinda like riding a Horse through a low hanging Orchard; You can ride as fast as you can duck, given that the Horse doesn't Buck mid-stride! High Ho Silver away.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesleywarren Posted March 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Eric Brammer aka PSR said: So, Wes, you started to feel what I got into with the old '88-'89 Safari Long-Comp [205 cm,Burton raceboard] I managed to wrangle away from the Coghlan's in '92. See, Paul Wren had already figured some nifty stuff out by then, including using subtle base beveling, quadratic sidecut [think of a clothes-line, but weighted such that the bigger weights are at the middle, with progressively smaller weights going outwards], dual-cambered sections, and a much softer nose than tail.. It would easily 'dance' in soft snow with much shorter boards, and it was docile, but a chore to maneuver at pedestrian speeds. Once up to optimum, around 35+, it came into it's own, and carved effortlessly (recall, please, the solid, three-strap binders of the era!) until about 50 mph... then, an odd 'floating' started at any flat-between-turns, as the bendable nose would 'suck air' under it and Lift, often fluttering for a bit (this is why 'Link' modded Sims 190's and 210's had an odd cut-out triangle within the nose, to let Air Thru! Steve Link was a Genius in Longboards; note SUMMIT, FARMER, Longboards). So, at 50 or above, between turns, you'd get 'lift', and if only moderately arc-ed upon, the 'lift' would "hold" through part of the turn. I once jumped on Okemo's 'Exhibition' trail just after the Headwall (back when it still had a cliff-face to it), but into a slight headwind. The result was low-level flight. I cleared from tower 18 to tower 17 about 2-3 feet above the snow, but couldn't put her down! I was doing speed of the mid-40's or so.That was the longest jump I ever did, some 600 yards, but, really LOW to the snow! I also ran 'around' through "Arrow" from top to bottom in less than two minutes (on a powder day!) to the Sugar-shack near the base, racing a Skier who ran straight down Nor-Easter on Atomic 210's. I beat him, soundly (I was OUT OF my 6-buckle Softies when he got there!). That was a mile-a-minute average run, btw. So, really LONG boards will do some neat, though unexpected, things over, in, and on snow! Just don't go UNDER the snow!! Eric. Great info.. After the first time she started to float on me I had to sit down for a while drink a few beers and mentally try to figure what was going on.. The long jump did pop into my head.. It's a wing.. Looking forward to my next headwind.. Super stoked on this new trench surfing style. At least new to me.? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 Odd how that middle board, being nothing fancy, stubby and really Short, did so darned well in fresh snow! It was all about the Rope! And, occasionally custom shaped fins... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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