barryj Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 In my effort to reduce my angles on my TD3's on the fly......... which I have started....I want to purchase a TorqKey like this - https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/tool-shed-torqkey-torque-wrench-6nm It comes in a 4KN, 5KN or as shown 6KN variety Which KN TorqKey would be best to tighten down TD3's to the board and change angles?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I rather like this set of tools. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005G394RG/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485487204&sr=8-1-fkmr0&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Klein+Tools+hex+key+5.0+mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) I carry a ratcheting pocket driver which was a gift from Snowboard Life with a subscription. The handle holds 5 insert bits. Had to buy some of the hex bits separately which can be found individually or as part of a set; Home Depot, McMaster-Carr, Wiha Tools, Amazon. Much safer riding with this vs a T handle. http://www.the-house.com/da7todre11zz-dakine-tools-tuning.html?gclid=CNWK8tTw4dECFQeSaQod4AIO5A http://www.tognar.com/toko-pocket-driver/ https://www.mcmaster.com/#hex-shank-screwdriver-bits/=1639kpy https://www.wihatools.com/terminator-impact-insert-hex-bits-inch-metric-10-pc-set Edited January 27, 2017 by Pat Donnelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Brammer aka PSR Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 For the bits, spray a little Olive-oil cooking spray on them while they're on a paper towel. Let set for a bit, then wipe 'em down. Then, you'll have rust-free bits for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Pat Donnelly said: Much safer riding with this vs a T handle. Don't worry fellow safety nerd. I have a large thigh pocket in my steezy pants that keeps my t handle safely contained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 All great ideas, but still wondering what's the max KN's to clamp down a TD ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 The official answer to TD3 torques that I've seen over the years is that there is no answer. ;) I believe the bolts are grossly oversized compared to any loads they see, so our job as binding assemblers is to ensure that they stay tight enough to not loosen. A little past snug-tight holds everything in place. I've seen people put massive torque on them, I've seen people use finger-tip pressure, and both stayed together. I'd be nervous about any kind of a torque wrench as you sometimes need to exert herculean strength to loosen bolts if they haven't been turned in a while. Turning any torque wrench past its 'click' point will damage it. I now bring a cheap 3/8" ratchet wrench with a dedicated 5mm hex bit for stuck bolts. A bolt that makes me question if a T-handle will break or not just pops out quick with the ratchet handle. That's usually accompanied by a spark and a trail of sulfur smoke. My method: Tighten progressively in a criss-cross pattern, and when I feel the bolts snug everything up into metal-to-metal (or metal-to-board) contact, turn just a bit more with one hand. Remember that F2 bindings are usually assembled/installed with a screwdriver - you don't need a lot of torque! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I should add that I am not affiiliated with Bomber Industries other than helping out on the forums as needed. My opinions/observations are mine only. I have one of these in the backpack that I leave in the lodge: (Bondhus brand, burly handle, the ability to spin it by rolling the shaft between your fingers makes binding swaps fast) I tried this style and absolutely hated it: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61lFSnRgqkL._SL1500_.jpg - when a stuck bolt pops free it smacks your almost-frozen fingers pretty hard. I have one of these little micro-tools in my jacket pocket for emergencies: https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5017-613/I-Tool-Skin-E1-Multi-Tool?bvrrp=9421-en_ca/reviews/product/2/5017-613.htm And then a 5mm one of these on some cheap Harbor-Freight-grade 3/8" ratchet handle in my car/hotel room for stuck bolts (I've used it once, still worth it): Brands don't matter, just get whatever is convenient to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, lonbordin said: I rather like this set of tools. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005G394RG/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485487204&sr=8-1-fkmr0&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Klein+Tools+hex+key+5.0+mm I use something similar. I recently replaced literally *every* bolt on my board and boots with 4mm hex M6 bolts, and only have to carry one tool to fix or adjust any/everything. I wanted to get 5mm bolts but I could not get every size/length/head-type sourced with 5mm. 4mm seems to work (can apply adequate torque, and I'm less likeley to overtorque as with 5mm bolts (since my t-handle has a long reach, it starts to twist if you try and aooly too much torque, given how thin it is at 4mm). Edited January 27, 2017 by queequeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queequeg Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Double-post. Edited January 27, 2017 by queequeg Double-post (feel free to delete). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 The big T wrench is to much to carry around all day. I have a 3/8th ratchet with 5mm bit in my pack that stays in the lodge......but that's a waste of time and energy to have to go get it when wanting to change angles................I'll just go wit the 4KN......that's 44 foot lbs I believe.and small enough to not notice it in a pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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