1xsculler Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Are UPZ RCRs and or Deeluxe 425s too stiff for freecarving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1xsculler Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Then are they the better choice than RC10s, RC8s, T700s and T325s for most of us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 Boot stiffness for a given application is very much a matter of personal riding style and preference. Personally, I have experimented with stiffer and softer boots, and I find that the softer ones suit me better. YMMV, however. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamifumi Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Aracan said: Boot stiffness for a given application is very much a matter of personal riding style and preference. Personally, I have experimented with stiffer and softer boots, and I find that the softer ones suit me better. YMMV, however. I agree, I have experimented with stiff and soft boots as well. At first, I thought stiffer is better as I would think it is more responsive but I prefer softer boots set up now that i have experimented with softer one. I have RC-10 with red tongue (softest tonge) and spring system. Also added power strap plus. more of your personal preference. Edited January 16, 2017 by yamifumi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1xsculler Posted January 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 When I think of softer boots I think of the ATB and 225. The RC10 is a stiff boot in the UPZ lineup like the Deeluxe T700, isn't it? I think of the 325s and RC8s as mid-stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 The ATB is a total noodle compared to the 225. I like a softer boot myself but they are too soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I'm not sure if the ATB rates "softer". I haven't tried it, but I'd guess it's "very soft". The longitudinal stiffness of UPZ boots is very much subject to the stiffness of the tongues and springs used. Yamifumi's boots are probably at least as soft (longitudinally, anyway) as the 225. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I haven't used them but a friend of mine had a pair. The plastic they use feels like fruit roll-ups, super soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Anyone care to make a list of all commonly used boots ordered by stiffness? Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, philw said: Anyone care to make a list of all commonly used boots ordered by stiffness? Just a thought... YyzCanuck used to have one for all the Deeluxe models but it seems to have disappeared with their recent site upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLN Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 I guess you should choose your "fit": deeluxe or UPZ. And in both lineups it's getting pretty obvious, isn't it? I mean, you choise fit first, then flex second. You won't switch brands, because UPZ is slightly softer then deeluxe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonbordin Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, TLN said: I guess you should choose your "fit": deeluxe or UPZ. And in both lineups it's getting pretty obvious, isn't it? I mean, you choise fit first, then flex second. You won't switch brands, because UPZ is slightly softer then deeluxe. Fit is king! That said with UPZs you can change the flex multiple ways. Stiffer or less stiff tongues, stiffer cuffs, stiffer toe and heel blocks, and upgrading the top strap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 It's reasonable to say that the UPZ ATB is the softest hardboot. I was stunned at how soft the plastic is, even just poking it while on someone else's foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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