SWriverstone Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Quick question. Of the two turn paths shown below, how many of you carve path A versus B? I'm just wondering if the goal is to link turns with no straightline, on-edge travel between them? Or just to be in a constant state of turning? I've typically found myself doing more B than A, mainly because crowds on the slope prevent me from doing A all the time (though sometimes I can manage A for a short time). I realize too that it's often a combination of the two---which is why I'm wondering what the desired goal is? Just curious---part of my ongoing education! :) Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by SWriverstone I'm wondering what the desired goal is? You can do whatever stands it up for you, but a good carver is proficient at both. For me the goal is A, and if a trail is uncrowded I'll do A the whole way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by SWriverstone I'm wondering what the desired goal is? I think the'desired goal' is likely to change with each person, snow condition, ability level, equipment, etc. For a racer, the 'desired goal' is to navigate the course as fast as possible. My goal is to have as much fun as possible, and to enjoy the sensations of riding. I make turns of both shapes as the situation--or my mood--warrants. IMO, to maximize fun, a rider would be well advised to be able to make both long and short carved turns (and skidded turns, traverses, hop-turns, extension, retraction, etc.). Like a painter with a variety of colors on the palette, it allows you more options for self expression. And fun. Mi dos centavos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daneille Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 A is my goal. Daneille Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtslalom Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Since I ride such a short board, I prefer picture A. At least that is what I strive for. If I'm tired or want to slow down I will turn B style turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 what about C, where the turns go back up hill each time, but theres never an actual straight line? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWriverstone Posted January 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 Yeah, I realize of course that nobody does only one or the other. I was just curious. I sometimes find myself trying to travel a relatively straight line across the slope while remaining on edge as much as I can...or trying to do giant circles that span the entire width of the slope (as opposed to a tighter, slalom-style course down the hill). This might be because I'm trying to maximize the length (in time) of every run, since our mid-Atlantic runs are so short and the lift rides so l-o-n-g. :) But---I don't want to impede my carving progress by not turning enough! Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARCrider Posted January 30, 2005 Report Share Posted January 30, 2005 one of my goals is to carve a full circle, close but not quite there, little hop to finish need more speed I expect other than that A is my preference sometimes traffic dictates B though choose your own goal and when you achieve it choose another and have fun on the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 I like really long drawn out turns, too, as long as theyre truly carved. kinda takes a more "static" approach as well...not too much lean, not too much pressure to the middle of the board. can be fun. I try to go back up hill ever so slightly sometimes but it doesnt work too well on big boards Ive found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvCanada Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldrider Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by CarvCanada :) I like the line. Not to be picky, but shouldn't the edge change be to the downhill side of the preceding track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvCanada Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 HAH! oops!, I just made that in 2 seconds to get away from Linear Algebra, I'll fix it, I'm a perfectionist for things like this :) Oh yeah, and the space is for a massive snap off the tail over a roller :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka Dasai Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Good diagram - I note that the turn radius is the same in A and B. The only difference is the addition of some straight traversing in B. Generally I try and eliminate any "dead" time between carves, so I like A better than B. But on steeper slopes my path gets a bit more like B, partly because each turn is so intense I need a quiet moment to collect myself before doing it again. It's a bit glib, but the goal is FUN (as long as you're not racing), so there is no one right way to do it. For me, experimenting with a whole bunch of different turn shapes and different paths down the hill has always been best, and your post has reminded me to not lose sight of that. When you're riding the same runs over and over again, it's easy to get stuck in a rut (no pun intended). P.S. CarvCanada - your post is far more eloquent than mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWriverstone Posted January 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Here's my turn path for tonight, with all the dweebs bombing straight down the hill. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvCanada Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedzilla Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 My first few runs of the day are like 'B', until I get warmed up. Then I get closer to 'A' for a while. As the day progresses I gradually return to the 'B' style. Once I get to SWriverstone 's path, I know it has become time for me to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar(angel Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 from what the view from the chair lift tells me. It's funny but I always think I'm going further across the piste than what I really end up doing. I love riding up and seeing my trenches in the snow below me, especially when there's that little gap between turns telling me I had some transitional "airtime" :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleaman Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 This is typical of my trenching, especially on steeps and fast runs. The lady and the detail are in my dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipstar Posted January 31, 2005 Report Share Posted January 31, 2005 Well, I aim for those uphill finishing carve turns, all linked, so I think Fleaman has the best diagram. Of course, there are some problems: - girl looking in awe is clearly not on carving skis - girl looking in awe is nice and thin, but a little flat chested - what is up with her Dianna Ross hair? Other than that, the diagram seems quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by CarvCanada :) Bwa-haha! I recognize that edge-catch marking! :D Nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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