uku Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Hi! I have been doing some softboot carving for 2 years by now with my old Rossignol Leviathan (4 seasons old) and would like to take my riding to a new level. That board just doesn't carve on higher speeds + is morally old :) My new board should be with bigger sidecut radius and stiffer(?) but still for softies as I wouldn't want to specify purely on riding on the slope. As I live in a country called Estonia, it is pretty hard to get a decent board here as there is no demand for such products. The only options that I have found on sale are: Nitro Suprateam series Salomon Fastback + I probably could get a Neversummer T5 aswell. Has anyone had any experience with those boards? I know that their sidecut radius isn't that big (around 10 meters) but how much does it matter? If anyone has another board to recommend then just shoot. Though ordering from US is pretty expensive due taxes and postal costs unless I find some good discounts. Thanks, Uku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tigger Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 hello uku, have you visited the http://www.extremecarving.com/ forum? there are some members from estonia and finnland, im sure they can help you with the equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MozzMann Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I've cut some wicked turns on a Recon Riser and the new Burton T6 ,if that is any help. Mozz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mikko Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Hi Uku You should also check out www.ojankaivajat.org You could probably find something used with a reasonable price. And Finland is not that far away from Estonia. Mikko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philw Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I've ridden the fastback, which is a powder board. Probably not what you really want, depending on where you actually ride. As a powder board they're reasonably popular, but I felt that it was a bit too stiff for my weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svr Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Check out Rad-Air's Tankers...they have sizes ranging from 162, 172, 182, 192, and 200. They are great boards and you can get one in Europe from www.blue-tomato.at or try contacting rad-air directly. speed is your friend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uku Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 thanks for all the answers. after spending half a day surfing around bomberonline.com,extremecarving.com and numerous other sites my head is getting really dizzy because of the opportunitites out there. at the moment i'm not sure anymore if i want to stay with softies. progress, eh? :p anyway i figured out that first of all i should set down the dimensions. i'm 187 cm (6.1 feet) tall and weigh around 80 kg (176 lbs) can anyone recommend me an approximate length or refer a site i could find it out by myself. Alpinecarving.com says, "However, it is important not to buy a board based on your height - the slackers at the board shop seem to have the misconception that height corresponds to length." Does it mean that I should pick the biggest board possible as in most places 150+ lbs seems to be the largest number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vahur Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 General tip from shops (board length from chin to nose) is too short for carving and intended probably for freeride/freestyle person with average body build. In carving board length depends generally from riding style (shorter for short turns with smaller sidecut boards, longer for long high-speed turns, in Whistler PGS average board length seemed to be equal to rider's height, in PSL somewhere around the neck) and from weight; in smaller degree from person's height. Here in Bomber is article about board choosing but it does not give any numbers. But I think that something around 170 should be good starting point for carving and powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arion Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Hi Uku, You could try eBay.de. Völkl Downhell is available in 176 cm lenght for less than 300 eur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 Originally posted by philw I've ridden the fastback, which is a powder board. Probably not what you really want, depending on where you actually ride. As a powder board they're reasonably popular, but I felt that it was a bit too stiff for my weight. philw, aren't you pretty light? I demoed a Fastback 163 a few years ago. At 195 pounds, I found it quite versatile and thought it performed quite well as a soft boot carver. I've always felt the Salomon boards felt too "synthetic" and never liked the way any of the models I rode felt in powder (450, 550, Fastback, FRS) but thats probably just me. I have no idea how much the model has changed since I last demoed one... so nothing I say here may be relevant today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 I have ridden a few of their boards in the past all of them were good boards for railing on sims makes a good deck too cant remember what is was but it had green sidewalls and raised lines in the topsheet, that board was intense donek sasquatch and wide both rip and feel great at speed burton johan is one of my old favorites the Ride yukon and timeless are great boards but do not hold a edge nearly as well as the other boards I have mentioned but ride so easily everywhere and just feel good, they are note worthy never summer T5 and legacy are sick too and probably are the dampest of the bunch that I have been on, those boards have great edge hold and remind me of a coiler being such quiet but powerful rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uku Posted March 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 After measuring my board and using that sidecut radius calculator I found out that the sidecut radius is 10,3 m and it is pretty hard to find another board like that. Also I haven't had time to find myself a good hardboot setup so I continue with my old board and focus on the tehnique instead :). Just wanted to say thanks to everybody for their input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d b Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 steepwater! 171 scr 11.36m..soft boot carving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Winters Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Fastback 167 is my softie board, I should say was, as I'm expecting my Arbor Wide Element 167 in the mail any day. The fastback is a great powder board. I really don't use it much on hardpack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnovak Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 uku: blue-tomato also carries the F2 Eliminator which is a BX board for softboots (it's my softie board now) and they have the Nitro Dark Horse and Shogun. I demo'ed the Nitros and thought the Dark Horse was better than the F2 on hardpack, but was much more Euros too. Good luck in your search and hope you have fun carving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Originally posted by d b steepwater! 171 scr 11.36m..soft boot carving. nice pic, Dave! ditto on the steep thing. fckin SWEET snowboards and ride well with plates too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d b Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Thanks, that was last week at summit! Nice spring day A little too soft for alpine equipment so we broke out the softies!! Good time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy T. Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 I have been carving in soft boots for 13 years, just bought my first hard set up this year. Anyway I have owned several different boards, most recently a Burton Supermodel 168 and a K2 Recon Riser 165, but nothing compares to the Arbor A-Frame 170 that I got this season. It is a great all around board and carves very well, and IMO it is the nicest looking board made with it's real wood top sheet. My girlfriend also rides a 162 A-Frame and feels the same way about the board. I bought mine, after her, because of the research she did on the board and we both love them. Check them out at. www.arborsports.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 Yet to confirm , however I love the Identity brand and John states that his "Garage 173" freestyle type board will out carve many alpine boards. Sounds like a tall order but John has been "Dead On" on everything he has promised so far. If I get some soft snow conditions on this upcoming road trip I am going to find out for myself. Yep , Burton "Torque" 3 strap bindings set pretty steep and see what she will do!! Check it out here I got the "Screwdriver" graphic , the board is pretty stiff with more than the typical amount of camber. Looks really good, can't wait to ride it. You guys that know ID, this photos for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 185/ 168/ 162 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biff Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 I know you are out of the US, so I don't know if this is too expensive, but Donek makes great boards and they have European pricing (including everything) listed on their site. www.donek.com Just a happy customer. Before my Donek I was on an OSin Team board, pretty stiff and carvable, but the Donek was definitely the next level from that. If you go with one of their boards (say the Incline), you can ride plates on it too, if you want something that will do double duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellowjonny Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 try a Viagra message board--your only going to find snowboard stuff here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 My friend just got this monster....IMHO this board with 10.5m scr. and stiff flex, it can carve well as carving oriented boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 I ride Limited All-Around 163. Size: 30/25.5/30cm, SCR ~9m. On the stiff side for a "softy". Nice all wood core. Use to carve it on soft bindings, but now with plates. Les pain on the feet. With plates I sometimes overpower the nose on the heel side turn. I am 181cm / 82kg. Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 I agree with Biff. I am on a Donek Phoenix with Catek Freerides. Ultra versatile all over the mountain, yet I can still rip some nice turns on it. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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