TLN Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Hi. Does anyone using Booster strap? Got some question to bootster strap users: 1. Do you think it's worth it, compared to non-elastic straps on track700/rc10? 2. Here's the chart from a website: This one is for skiers. As i got, alpine boarders usually like some flex. Not talking about racers. Which one should i go, if i'm 100 kilos guy? Medium (also called expert) or WC one? Quite interested in opinion on this, because what i find is pretty different: one say it doesn't make ride better, some can hardly tell any difference and the most part have never tried this. Soo.. go for booster or get a bottle of whiskey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 I weight 125kg and bought the WC. Arrived today, on monday probably i'll use them and let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger jr Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) I prefer to use a wide 1 1/2'' to 2''(4 or 5 cm) wide wrap around velcro closure strap. Booster straps slide around when you tighten them, but you could always secure it to the boot so it won't slide. I just thought they were to narrow because on my boots(Deeluxe) the straps contact the liners on each side and I was getting side squeeze. I'm at 95kg. Edited January 17, 2013 by digger jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I got a set this season on my UPZ's. Agreed that the slide around is a pain in the butt, but they do seem to hold the boot better than the UPZ velcro strap, which I used to find would wriggle loose over the day. TBH, any difference is marginal. I think I paid about $35 for mine, and I don't think I'd pay any more. They certainly haven't magically fixed my shin bang issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike g. Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I also use the strap, in my upz. they dont slide around. if you put them in the boot right. They have a much stronger hold on, than the velco. Cause my top buckle comes off, and I cant even tell until I take the boots off. Cause the strap is holding on for dear life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 My UPZs came with the 3-strap (stiff) model, they'd cause my feet to fall asleep if I tightened them a tiny bit too much. I changed to the 2-strap model and quite like them. I agree with Allee, just barely worth the money they cost. They're a great place to mount boot heater battery packs. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtanner Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Just a reminder, they should go around the liner and not the boot shell. :) WC model for me, and I usually loosen them up a bit on the lift. -Gord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Just a reminder, they should go around the liner and not the boot shell. :) What makes you say that? The US team rider I bought my boots from didn't follow that rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtanner Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 In reference to shin-bang. Keeping pressure on the liner improves your chances of keeping contact between the shin and the front of the liner. On UPZ's, the booster still weeves through the rear of the spoiler plastic, then over the front of the liner. If you place it over the front of the plastic on the boot, you don't really get the full benefit of the strap's intent. The US rider you were referring to likely just wanted more leverage, so placing the booster around the plastic of the boot in the front of the boot essentially adds a 3rd buckle above the ankle with a bit of give. And the team riders don't care for comfort, they go for performance. Boots insane-tight and and fully un-buckled while on the lift or not actively riding/skiing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muthahucker Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I use them on my ski boots, they make a huge difference over the velcro closure. Depends on your shell and liner type, but I have found they work better when they go around the liner and then you close up the boot shell over them. Just my opinion of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilux Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Tried them when I first got my UPZs. Didn't like the feel of Boosters initially but was also having chronic issues with boot fit and performance overall. I've been on a mission to get more flex out of UPZ without hacking them up and rigging a BTSish device. I ditched the stock liners for thermos and now have a pretty good fit and thought I'd give the Booster straps another try the other day as directed on the instructions. They do suggest for "best" results to put them over the liner and not tongue of shell. The strap is still put through the back of the shell to anchor it so only the front is over the liner. These were the "expert" mediums. What a difference! It felt like I got more range of motion and got a rebound feel after flexing forward. You can essentially adjust this rebound simply by how tight you crank the strap. And it does make a difference. At first I had it super tight and it felt like my boots were extra spring loaded. Loosened it off and found that sweet spot. My boots felt so lively, it was weird but very welcoming. For those of you wondering, I did try this on the outside (ie where you'd normally have the stock strap across the tongue/shell) and it feels more constricting, stiff and limited movement. Still felt okay but nothing special. It was more like I had the stock velcro straps on essentially just keeping the liner together with the shell. I should also note that I have tried these on my ski boots with their stock liner "as directed" and found it uncomfortable because of thickness/placement of the liner and the traditional liner tongue. It was really squeezing my leg, and the pressure was concentrated. My thermos however are fairly thick and are wrap-style so I don't notice it. Anyway, if you're at a point where you feel like you can't tune your boots anymore, for $30ish these might be the ticket. Edited January 26, 2013 by Hilux Adding content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger jr Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Would you guys post some pics of straps wrapped on the liner only. Can't figure out how you are running them? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I went downstairs and played with my boots this afternoon. Sure nuff, they will fit around the liners, and I can get the boot buckled up over the top. So I'm going to give it a spin tomorrow and see if it makes a difference ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpletiesto Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) I got a set this season on my UPZ's. Agreed that the slide around is a pain in the butt, but they do seem to hold the boot better than the UPZ velcro strap, which I used to find would wriggle loose over the day. TBH, any difference is marginal. I think I paid about $35 for mine, and I don't think I'd pay any more. They certainly haven't magically fixed my shin bang issue. Go to your local hardware store and buy some foam flooring for kids play areas (they go together like a jigsaw puzzle). Then cut it up and stuff it in between your shin and your liner, or your liner and your boot shell. Then throw the booster strap around the liner or boot shell. This will magically fix your shin bang problem. Edited January 27, 2013 by purpletiesto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroshmero Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) I use the WC model Booster strap. I weigh 250lbs (113kg) and have Head Stratos Pro boots. I really like the Booster Strap. I can tighten down the top of the boot which makes it feel like I've added another buckle. Also, I like the Booster Straps better than the stock velcro strap because I can get the Booster Strap tighter than the stock velcro strap due to stretching the elastic in the Booster Strap. FWIW, I put the strap the outside of the boot shell and tongue. Edited January 28, 2013 by heroshmero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Buggs Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I rode boosters for years on the outside of my shells, What a Dummy:smashfrea. Last season the guy at Equipe in the Stratton village suggested I put them inside right on the front/tongue of the liner, What A difference!!!!. I no longer have issues with my shins. Mine are attached to the back of the shell so they dont slide. I cant believe I rode with them on the outside for so many years. If you can get them inside without any fit issues you will be happy you tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terekhov Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Just a reminder, they should go around the liner and not the boot shell. :) both options - around liner or around shell - is worth considering, for different feel. I ran it over the shell' tongue (head stratos pro boots). 2TLN: yes, sure, booster is BEST low-cost update to boots bar none. you can take WC - and then modify it down to medium if considered too hard, there's easy way to do just that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 http://www.skimetrix.com/instruction.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLN Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) both options - around liner or around shell - is worth considering, for different feel. I ran it over the shell' tongue (head stratos pro boots).2TLN: yes, sure, booster is BEST low-cost update to boots bar none. you can take WC - and then modify it down to medium if considered too hard, there's easy way to do just that But it ain't reversible, i guess? Anyways, it's nice to see all the responses, and looks like I'd get once i get new boots. Looks like it really worth trying the Boosters. It always great to hear any opinions on that. I'd post my feedback, once i receive mine. Edited January 29, 2013 by TLN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terekhov Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 But it ain't reversible, i guess? Looks like it really worth trying the Boosters. there's no limitation to reverse that, but I can't see any need to. looking into some 10+ fellow riders ride mediums - from 50kg to 100kg weight - I can state that mediums will fit all, not counting most aggressive _skiers_. and yes - there's gold-colored buckle on WC.... ))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLN Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I mean modification. I guess there's one way to make it softer, right? Wonder if should go with Medium or stick to WC model? Snowboarding require a bit of a flex, doesn't it? Or WC will be fine for aggressive 100 kilos rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terekhov Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 as I said above - medium will do fine for any rider, but gold buckle is a gold buckle! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.a Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Im 90kg and I have the "firm" or "expert" model. The first time I felt no difference, a year or two later I tried them again after softening my Head boots and really liked them, but only over the boot shell, not the liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopodotti Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 I've used this we. I prefer to wear them over the tongue. Over the liner more or less nothing changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Houghton Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I wear them over the liner behind the tongue, and either the 2 strap or 3 strap style work well for me at 90 kilos. No more shin bang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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