Maxlanaudiere Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 High guys I'm looking to replace my liners in my head boots. I am looking for a wrap style liner and I have very skinny legs. The intuition powerwraps were too loose. I would need some suggestions, I would liek a thermofit liner wich would be really thick at the calve region. I know about the powerwraps + but I would like to have more options. Seems like its going to be an on-line order so I don't want to screw it up. Thanks in advance ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxlanaudiere Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Had some good pointer in private. Little question: what kind of issues should I expect If I try and fit a 30 liner in a 29.5 shell ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie00 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I'm using a 29 liner in a 27 shell with no issues at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I don't have the same issues as you, but these are good: http://bomberonline.3dcartstores.com/Thermo-Flex-Liners-DCL-131_p_90.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Maxlanaudiere, this may or may not work. Keep in mind that after a TF liner comes out of the oven, the material can only be compressed. If your feet are *too* skinny, you will need a technology where the liner can also expand to take up excess volume. In other words, a foam-injected liner. Or a shell with less volume. My wife had the same problems with her Heads and switched to UPZs instead. She got a good deal, so the boots cost less than she would have paid for injection liners. And just out of curiosity: Why use a size 30 liner instead of a 29? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxlanaudiere Posted November 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 I can get a proer fit for my feet no problem. The issue is with the gap better the upper cuff of the boots and my legs. The reason why I asked about using 30 liners in a 29.5 shell was that gearx as some scarpa liners for sale at 19$ and the smallest size left are 30s. A skinny legger recommended my those liners. I think for 19$ I'll give em a try and see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilux Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Also consider how tight you are buckling up the boot after the liner comes out of the oven. If you have skinny calfs then you wouldn't want to crank down on the top buckles necessarily. If the buckles are tight(er) it will compress the liner and potentially give you unwanted space. I went through this process and it makes a huge difference. Oh, and I have 28 liners in 27/27.5 shell. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie00 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Max, I am using theses exact same liners in my UPZ and got the info from here on bomber that a few others were using them as well in upz. All the same thing .. 29 or 30 liner in a 27 shell and no issues and I have chicken legs. I am not sure which liner you have right now but they made my UPZ A LOT softer since the OEM liner has a plastic tongue. Just something to keep in mind. I was able to get the liner right in the boot without even heating and they were pretty comfy. IF you need more info give me a call or facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxlanaudiere Posted November 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Thank you all for the info. thatès the kind of feedback I was looking for. Ernie: youère right, I forgot you got a pair of these last year. As for the liners being very soft, I'm running yellow springs right now on the BTS. So worst case scenario I'll put the blue ones to good use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I tried 29's or 30's in my 27's and they DID NOT work for me. A re-mold might help, but it seemed like there was just too much material in there for my feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracan Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 If the buckles are tight(er) it will compress the liner and potentially give you unwanted space. I went through this process and it makes a huge difference. Also, there is a "how to bake your liners" video around somewhere on the web. Near the end of the vid, the guy flexes the boots backwards and forwards. If you have too much room in the cuff, DO NOT do that. I did the first time, and the liners were far too loose around the shins. The second time I just closed the buckles enough to feel they were closed and stood still (toes raised) during the cool-down. Much better fit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingbat Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) I was able to get the 29.5 Scarpa liners from GearX in my 27.5 Heads without any problems. It was a bit of a bitch to do, but they came out fine. I can get a proer fit for my feet no problem. The issue is with the gap better the upper cuff of the boots and my legs. The reason why I asked about using 30 liners in a 29.5 shell was that gearx as some scarpa liners for sale at 19$ and the smallest size left are 30s. A skinny legger recommended my those liners. I think for 19$ I'll give em a try and see how it goes. I had the same problem with the upper cuff. The two size two big liner jammed in the boot only worked for about half a day before it was too loose again. Didn't even bother going after the toe area which was way too tight with that liner. I ended up going to a much smaller UPZ and punched the crap out of the toe along with removing all the foam from the liner around the big toe. Very happy now. Edited November 28, 2012 by dingbat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.a Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yea, unfortunately it is a bit of science when it comes to mixing/matching something "simple" as liners and boots. I'm currently staring at three new pairs of boots I bought and four different thermo liners and have no idea what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 I tried 29's or 30's in my 27's and they DID NOT work for me. A re-mold might help, but it seemed like there was just too much material in there for my feet.I had an issue with that when I first baked my liners. What I did was to take some foam tape used for sealing doors, and wrap it around my entire forefoot, ie not just the toe cap. I left the heel bare as I wanted a tight fit there. 2nd bake was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXFR70 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 to the OP, you may want to look into a plug liner, like the Intuition FX Race or HD Race, they are a tongue liner, not wrap around. but the calf is specifically thicker for your problem, I have a pair of I think the FX Race, and they are much thicker and take up more room at the calf and on leg above ankle than red thermofits, I feel they are more comfortable too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxlanaudiere Posted December 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Alright so I pulled the trigger on a pair of Scarpas mondo 30 from gearX at 19$ per set Molded them and it fits perfectly in my 29.5 head boots and I have no gap issue around my skinny legs. Another thing worth mentionning: these liners are very very very warm. Almost too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.a Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 CoolTake out the liners, take off your socks, paper and pencil put your bare feet in, toes up to the front, look at the space behind your heel, do it for all boots, mark down the differences, a finger or less distance is desirable, this should help in choosing the shell, now, choose a liner, I like custom foamed with custom orthotics, no heel slip, excellent fit. If one of the sets of liners works, good. Ursle, I know how to size my boots, the whole deal lies with the fact that I ride in three different pairs of boots (HSP, AF700 and Burton Wind) that all fit me very well, and not only do I have the original liners (which have their pluses and minuses) but also four different pairs of thermos to play around with (Intuition Gold ID, Raichle blacks, Raichle reds and the cheapo Scarpas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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