Seb Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Seb if you take your plate to the drill press and fill it full of holes like they do with brake rotors on racing machines you can shed a pile of weight and not affect the strength reducing the mass is always good. If you made these by hand it will take a lot of work but i think you will find it worth the effort. If it's CNC well sit back and watch or do a vid and post the picture people always like to watch someone or something do the work for them.;) I understand your point but i'm not one of the people who thinks the lighter it is the better it is! If I drill tones of holes in the plate anyway they will be full of snow in them after a run. That's something you need to take in count. Like Apex it always getting full of snow under it and you need to take it off after each runs or it interact with the flex and in spring snow it get really heavy and with this plate I almost not getting any snow stick under it. That's just my thinking...I respect yours!....And I squat 400lbs I hope I can ride a 20pounds board haha just kiding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I understand your point but i'm not one of the people who thinks the lighter it is the better it is! Me either, mass can be your friend. Lighter is not the answer for all things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowrider Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 What would you say is upper limit for weight of a plate setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 What would you say is upper limit for weight of a plate setup? Do you mean the weight of the total board, plate and bindings? In my experience this is more relevent. Currently I am more concerned about height. I personally prefer setups that do not get too "tall". When I had TD3s on my Kessler/Hangl or Vist setups I started to feel like it was counter productive on some plane. This is another reason I am using TD2 bases on my Tinkler plate systems where I can. In the final analysis I seek the balance between flex-travel-dampening and height-weight. Or, arriving at the result with the simplist, least complicated, cleanist setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 What would you say is upper limit for weight of a plate setup? I think it would be personal preference I mean i'm pretty sure alot of riders would not like my plate cause of the weight and some would like it. I'm not saying we are trying to get it as heavy as we can i'm just saying there is no big deal about the weight of a plate as long as you can handle it! You need to take in count that this is not a recreational setup it's a race setup so riders are really strong and agile...Like Benjamin Karl is plate setup, i'm pretty sure is heavier and/or about the same weight as mine and he won the Overall world cup this year. At the end I think there is advantage to be light and there is advantage to be heavy too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Industrial strength looking plate Seb! The durability of the pivots/bearings in these plates is going to be an emerging issue, especially after you pay $1000+ for one. Anyone designing them had better either source a sealed lubricated bearing that works well at sub-zero temperatures OR reflect/read up on why orthopaedic surgeons don't use steel on steel, or steel on aluminium, for their unlubricated hip joint replacement joint surfaces. Kia ora, and welcome to Aotearoa. Watch a little top class rugby series that is on at present between the best 3 nations in the world (Australia / New Zealand / South Africa - in alphabetical order, bragging rights before next year's World Cup will be decided by the outcome). Take care on our gravel surfaced skifield access roads. Best of luck for the FIS Junior Champs at Treble Cone in Wanaka. SunSurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Watch a little top class rugby series that is on at present between the best 3 nations in the world (Australia / New Zealand / South Africa - in alphabetical order, bragging rights before next year's World Cup will be decided by the outcome). bwa-hahaha. even scotland can win against australia. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Industrial strength looking plate Seb!The durability of the pivots/bearings in these plates is going to be an emerging issue, especially after you pay $1000+ for one. Anyone designing them had better either source a sealed lubricated bearing that works well at sub-zero temperatures OR reflect/read up on why orthopaedic surgeons don't use steel on steel, or steel on aluminium, for their unlubricated hip joint replacement joint surfaces. SunSurfer That's what we test last year with the prototype and we are pretty sure we found the solution cause yes we had problem with this but it is resolved...im pretty sure...And I didn't pay a $ for it my friends dad just wanted me to put sticker on it in return:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donek Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 [quote name= The durability of the pivots/bearings in these plates is going to be an emerging issue' date=' especially after you pay $1000+ for one. Anyone designing them had better either source a sealed lubricated bearing that works well at sub-zero temperatures OR reflect/read up on why orthopaedic surgeons don't use steel on steel, or steel on aluminium, for their unlubricated hip joint replacement joint surfaces. SunSurfer[/quote] Stainbless against self lubricating plastics like UHMW and Delrin work well. So far we've seen little wear with the UHMW, but may try some delrin too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted July 28, 2010 Report Share Posted July 28, 2010 Joint replacement surfaces have been almost universally UHMWPE on medical grade stainless steel alloy for many years. These types of surfaces have the best track record for wear so far. Recent advances for hip joints are steel ball femoral components onto highly polished, precision ceramic cups. It will be a number of years before it is seen how well these last. Some of the early model ceramic cups fragmented inside the patient once in use. Increasing the bearing surface area also slows the rate of wear as point loads decrease. SunSurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Oxess has joined the plate builders. Additional photo of an Oxess 235cm alpine longboard just for fun!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Additional photo of an Oxess 235cm alpine longboard just for fun!!drool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Where does those pics come from? I have a WC Oxess on order with UPM inserts. So this plate would be fine.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Interestingly with fixed stance width Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Inte;restingly with fixed stance width Nothing a portable drill cant fix.;) Very interesting they made it so thin between the bindings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 That depends totally material used for plate material if ou can add inserts But to be honest my plate will be only with one stance width, but it only for me :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colintkemp Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 That Oxess is crazy big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 That Oxess is crazy big. It would be really impressive if we didn't already know about the 282cm Tinkler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Where does those pics come from?.... Damn, I guess I should have first just said "Have you heard about......" Maybe the photos were not supposed to be public? I found them on a gallery somewhere? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 drool. Yes indeed, I would love to give it a go!! Knowing the quality of his designs and construction, I am sure it would be a dream ride. I had the extreme pleasure of riding the Tinkler 222cm of DD's.(The Big Kahuna) It was tuned and waxed to perfection (as is everything he owns) it was amazing!!! I swear it was like I was in slow motion , although I could tell by all the objects blurring that I was going REALLY fast There were times I would swear It had perpetual energy, you know , going up hill, not slowing down on the flats, that sort of thing. "Altered State" Good fun!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Yes indeed, I would love to give it a go!! Knowing the quality of his designs and construction, I am sure it would be a dream ride.i think the ideal .. piste, for that sort of skwal would be a snowbound alpine pass that just happened to have had a groomer pack down. oh. and no tunnels.it is a skwal, right? looks less than 16cm in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.oldsnowboards.com Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I don't think it is a skwal. It just looks narrow due to the length. Hard to say for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunSurfer Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Where does those pics come from?I have a WC Oxess on order with UPM inserts. So this plate would be fine.... Try the Oxess Facebook site Pictures page. SunSurfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tscherno-Bill Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Ists one new Board from Oxess. Its not sure that it is the start to a new series. The XX235 is my new Toy with following Specs: Over all: 235 cm Waist: 15,2 cm by the way: Where are your pics from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieran Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Over all: 235 cmWaist: 15,2 cm Sidecut: 35 m when you find the perfect corner for bending that board like a banana, be sure to get pictures. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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