SnoBear Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 So I'm a true newbie...I have read that you can use ski boots but hard snowboard boots are better. How do the 2 differ? Flex, lean etc... I already have a pair of Salomon ski boots that I am very comfortable with ,Salomon Evolution2 7.0. (I am a decent skier and a good freeride boarder.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Before the others get you... Keep riding in them! Easy to jump from board to skis and back. Just do not crank them up too hard for board... It's a heresy but it works ;) Now, the rest of the crowd can flame me :D :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 If you are very comfortable in your ski boots then they probably won't be a problem on a snowboard. Go for it! That will give you the option to quickly switch from board to skis and back throughout the day. Or if you feel like the boots are holding you back, you can find some used boots for cheap. Or heck, buy new! http://www.bomberonline.com/store/boots/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoBear Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Thanks for the info! I am giving carving a try because I am not into the park or pipes and I want to push myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pow Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 from what ive gathered, ski boots are stiffer than snowboard boots, and snowboard boots are designed a little differently to accomodate the forward/backward foot movement snowboarders use instead of the side to side motion skiiers use when changing edges. But there are carvers out there who ride ski boots very successfully. Also, UPZ makes hardboots that are supposed to convert from ski to snowboard easily... If you want the convenience but find the ski boots unfit for snowboarding the UPZ boots might be the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 snowboard boots are designed a little differently to accomodate the forward/backward foot movement snowboarders use instead of the side to side motion skiiers use when changing edges. With binding angles around 60 degrees, there is A LOT of side-to-side motion while carving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 I started in ski boots and rode them for years. Other people on here started the same way, and some of them still ride them. In fact, my ski boots are the same as yours. They're relegated to the snowblades these days, though ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Stiffer laterally, much longer sole length. these are the two biggest differences that come to mind right now. If you buckle them up a little differently, you can use them for riding. Set up your cuff buckles a little looser than you would for skiing and do a little "carpet surfing" till you feel comfortable flexing/moving around on the board. You kinda know what you will want to start with as you already board. You will also need to turn up the angles a little more than you would with snowboard hardshell boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Just ride what you have for now. I rode Tech. TNTs in Bomber TD1s for years. Rode great I just had to get used to them.. Matter of fact I rode only ski boots from 91-98. with a few times I tried snowboard boots but they always just exploded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Dahl Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 a few times I tried snowboard boots but they always just exploded. Some guys are just animals, Bordy! I might still be in ski boots myself, they have been,for me at least,the most comfy off the shelf boots for me. Oh, wait, I'll be rockin' Dynafit TLT4's this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjvircks Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 HEY SAN DIEGO SNOBEAR If you can... outfit your freeride board to accept your ski boots too. This way you only need to lug one set of boots wherever you head. Having the extra set of plate bindings is well worth it if you want to carve the first lines into fresh groom, mid-day ski with your late rising buddies, then thrash around the chop till the lifts close on your freeride. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoBear Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Thanks so much for all the info! I can't wait to get out there and give it a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuban Carving Gooding Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 That's all good info to get started. Ski boots will work but as you progress you should get boarding boots. Ski boots have an upright stance board boots have foward lean which help you as you progress. And the tred helps A bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias in MN Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 With binding angles around 60 degrees, there is A LOT of side-to-side motion while carving. So true..I noticed more shin slints when sking hard . I've race in high school sking, came out of the service freinds were freeride boarding, bought my first freeride one year later bought a FP 180s and never turned back .....its the most exspressive sport out there if you ask me. Im almost .....sad not to miss sking Have a blast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias in MN Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Just ride what you have for now. I rode Tech. TNTs in Bomber TD1s for years. Rode great I just had to get used to them.. Matter of fact I rode only ski boots from 91-98. with a few times I tried snowboard boots but they always just exploded. That is interesting I liked my TNTs better can you put clip in heels on TNTs?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 with allot of dremel work, seen both burton physics and intec modded ski boots ski boots take allot of tweaking to work well IMHO cateks are your friend if you have ski boots ski boots really rattle you on the heelside in hard snow if thats all you have then go for it but ski boots really make you have to stay on top of your game, stiff and unforgiving bastards my knees can't handle ski boots these days, too rigid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 too stiff in others did I mention how friggin' long they are? with some mods and a highly adjustable binding you can make it work well though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoBear Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 too stiff in others did I mention how friggin' long they are? with some mods and a highly adjustable binding you can make it work well though I only wear a Mondo 25 (I am a women). Will the length still be a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Length is actually never a problem, it's just how steep or low angles you want to ride. Longer sole makes for steeper angles on a given board. Then, not all ski boots are very long soled. From my experience Nordica is good. Further some ski boots are more suited for for riding. Many people liked Raichle Flexons. I find that many old race ski boots had flehing devices (like RABs), and lean and flex could be adjusted. Many modern ones you can put in walk mode to make them softer, or simply do not overtighten the top 2 buckles. Especially 2nd one from top affects the flex. The best snowboard boots around, Head Stratos Pro, are actually an old ski boot shell... Someone mentioned forward lean... Not an issue either. Good bindings have cant/lift adjustable, so for more lean you'll use more heel lift, right? It would actually feel better, because your foot is in more natural position to your calf. As for bouncing around on heel side on hard pack, yes it does happen. But it depens a lot on the dampening ability of your bindings and board, too. It happpens on board boots too, I believe. Many racers believe that stiffer boot gives better edge hold on hard pack... So, try learning on your existing boots, without spending money. If you succeeded, you'll be able to ride anything. If not, you still can try the snowboard boots. Oh, yes, with ski boots, you do not need to go very stiff with bindings. Some Snowpros or F2s would do (money saving, again). Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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