mirror70 Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 <img src="http://www.cf-cars.com/images/bubbles/Moet%20&%20Chandon%20-%201998%20rose%20-%20label.jpg"> Just added this to my rack. Should be quite drinkable in 3-5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman0177 Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I have just discovered an online wine auction site and gone a bit mental. I am amassing quite a collection. I think I need Jim to come and sort it for me some time because I am getting to the stage of needing to know what is worth keeping and what I should just drink. But nonetheless, I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatha Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Call me not the purist, but I think wine should be drunk and not collected- My brother got married last year and, in the cellar-and not well cellared, either, were literally hundreds of higher level cru bordeaux, many upwards of 50 years old.... They were purchased for special occasions and kept- when would you break down and drink them? They had achieved the dreaded "sentimental value"....... When I say not well cellared, this room was halfway into the hill, with west facing windows in Fort Worth...needless to say, I imagine, it do get hot in that room.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirror70 Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 If you're doing it right, you don't attach sentimental value to them. The wine really does change with age, so you can see large improvements if you cellar it. The important part that many collectors miss is that it's wine and the reason you keep it is to drink it later - not just to have for the sake of having. The other thing is that with bubbly, there are a LOT of vintage years so it's easier for some people to justify drinking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skatha Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I completely agree-tasting a wine-1 bottle one day and another bottle even 1 month later can be 2 different and pleasant experiences.... But, if I was going to collect wine, I'd put it in a dark area and keep it around 50 degrees.... I recently purchased a case of wines from Seghesio-I've already got some away to drink over the next 5 years-but I'm not collecting with the idea of potential investment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirror70 Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I do have some "table bubbles" on hand at all times, too, plus the usual collection of table flats. <img src="http://www.cf-cars.com/images/bubbles/Mumm%20-%20blanc%20de%20noirs%20-%20label.jpg"> <img src="http://www.cf-cars.com/images/bubbles/Mumm%20-%20carte%20classique%20-%20label.jpg"> <img src="http://www.cf-cars.com/images/bubbles/Mumm%20-%20cordon%20rouge%20-%20label.jpg"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 that Mumm Blanc De Noir is one of my favorites. If you ever get a chance to visit the Winery it's well worth the trip. And you need to add some DVX to your selection there...Yum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjl Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Bubbles is ok, but I like Buttercup the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I am just hanging out to go back to New Zealand in September and drink myself stupid in Hawkes Bay, Marlborough and Central Otago. I hope the other half is happy driving on the "wrong" side of the road, as I won't be capable. And yes, while classical champers is always good (Taittinger for me) I will be partaking of Cloudy Bay Pelorus and Deutz Blanc de Blanc while there. And hopefully breakfast at Cellier Le Brun ... champagne breakfast ... the best way to start a solid day of wining ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Call me not the purist, but I think wine should be drunk and not collected- I totally concur with that statement lots of folks get into it and waste good wine, eventually corks rot even in the best of condition some old folks that I cleaned out their house a couple years ago had a huge collection starting with bottles purchased in the fifties anyway, some were bad and others were not but whats the point if you don't drink the damn things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Rosé?? I suppose you like white zinfandel too...? :p The best flat red for the money: Ridge Lytton Springs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 There's nothing wrong with rose on the deck at lunchtime in summer. Or for that matter, a good pinot gris, dry riesling or gerwurztraminer ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleaman Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I like Bubbles, I think he is cool :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirror70 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 that Mumm Blanc De Noir is one of my favorites. If you ever get a chance to visit the Winery it's well worth the trip.And you need to add some DVX to your selection there...Yum It's one of my favorites, too. I've been really impressed with Mumm's Napa offerings. They are quite good and well priced. The NH liquor store usually has them for $14-15. They are all much better than Moet's Napa bubbles, imo, which are very temperature sensitive. I've been meaning to try the DVX for about two years now, but it's very hard to find around here (MA) and because MA sucks, I can't buy it online. I'll keep my eyes peeled though. Maybe Marty's can special order it for me? Jack - a good rosé is still good. They're just a bit harder to find. The lower end rosés are usually just devoid of complexity, but the good ones are.... good. The skin also makes them age differently and this is where many rosés find their stride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 My wine comes out of a box! Mylar bags and plastic taps never dry out, warm or, cold dont matter to me and sunshine aint gonna hert it and I get alot of bang for the buck (sadly mostly myself go figure). Go Mad Dog go! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman0177 Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I am just hanging out to go back to New Zealand in September and drink myself stupid in Hawkes Bay, Marlborough and Central Otago. I hope the other half is happy driving on the "wrong" side of the road, as I won't be capable.And yes, while classical champers is always good (Taittinger for me) I will be partaking of Cloudy Bay Pelorus and Deutz Blanc de Blanc while there. And hopefully breakfast at Cellier Le Brun ... champagne breakfast ... the best way to start a solid day of wining ... I won't get into the right side / wrong side of the road debate (because I know I am right, but there are just too many of you). But as for the wine, NZ has some amazing cold climate whites. I think I have a few, but I can't really be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman0177 Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 My wine comes out of a box! Mylar bags and plastic taps never dry out, warm or, cold dont matter to me and sunshine aint gonna hert it and I get alot of bang for the buck (sadly mostly myself go figure). Go Mad Dog go! :D Ah the Wine Cask. One of Australia's greatest inventions!!! Almost makes me weep.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 Bob and everyone else against aging wine: What you have to realize is 99.999% of wine produced is NOT meant for aging. 99% of California wine is NOT meant for aging. They don't have the tannin structure nor the acidity to last more than a few years in bottle before they start going downhill. Certain wines MUST be aged before they really start to shine. Vintage Champagne, Upper levl growths of Bordeaux, Barolo, Barbaresco, Brunello, and Premier Cru and Grand Cru Burgundy. While you can technically drink these wines young, they aren't meant to be drunk without the proper aging, nor do they taste as good. Cellaring wine changes the character of a wine dramatically. If you have several bottles of something, you can drink it over a span of decades and watch it grow and mature into a beautiful thing. One of the coolest examples of this I've had the pleasure of experiencing is drinking a relatively young glass of Tokaji Aszu Essencia, and having a glass of 1859 Tokaji right next to it. Mind you the wine was unbelievable, drinking wine that predates the American Civil war will boggle your mind, and is something everyone should be able to experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 ageing is bad, what I did say is that there is a huge potential for loss and there are many folks who collect and won't part with their wine that they will never drink, its like someone who buys boards and never rides them and will never sell them. there is a risk to cellaring wine even with perfect climate controls, this past winter actually this was a good thing because my girlfriend got a few bottles free that were tearing, it was still tasty though its good to work for rich wine yuppies sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Wine is available in a Bottle ???? Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 my girlfriend got a few bottles free that were tearing Do you mean that there was wine seeping out of the bottle? Storage factors can influence that, but from what I've seen it can happen to the best stored wines as well. As long as you know the life expetancy of the wine, there really isn't that much risk when it comes to cellaring wines, assuming proper cellaring conditions are used. The percentage of flawed wine is around 3%, and there really isn't anything you can do to prevent most flaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 the dudes explanation for that was the french can't make corks, it was all french wine exept one of them what I actually think was the reason the same as I have found with a few french spirits is that they often use untreated natural cork as opposed to the ones with adidtives or were highly compressed prior to use the untreated corks are said to breath much better and don't transfer any unnatural tastes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 The French can't make corks? The guy obviously has no clue as to what he's talking about. My guess is there was something flawed in his cellaring, as if the corks don't recieve enough moisture (whether through natural humidity or the bottles being on their side), the can dry up and shrink, causing seepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoasticerider Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Im going to Bend Oregon next september and Im going to smoke stinky cigars(Pleiades) and good wine and local brewpub beer!...the pleasures of the senses.....plus unbeleivable fresh salmon like you cant get on the east coast...oh yeah!!!!!pork out like a little piggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirror70 Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Be sure to stock up on Pinot Noirs while there. Willamette Valley is already producing some really fantastic bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.