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Yeah, I was hoping to see comments on what the new options are. I'm in the southeast, so I have to travel to board. Nowadays, that means I go ahead and travel out west. The little if any riding I do on the icecost will be likely be exclusively hardbooting a Donek FC I have en route. I've thought a lot about the issue of a long, soft nose in the resort chop tossing the rider around. (I had this issue with my 4807 this year at MtBachelor, albeit it may have been attributable to or in conjunction with the boat hull design or my center of gravity.) I've thought about a Hazelwood with a soft center flex, like how I've heard the Coiler AM refer to, but that Furberg looks interesting. After the exchange rate and shipping though, the Furberg is a rather expensive proposition for a non-custom board. Based on your experience, would you say it's worth the cost for those of us on this side of the pond? Tempting. I'll let you know. That Unity The Whale looks like a good candidate. Thanks for mentioning it. I wonder how stiff it is up front.... Yeah, I guess a bit of a zombie thread. I was just curious as to what is current and what is not. Cool blog. I'm going to have to dig through it. Thank for posting a link to your review. With regard to length, what manuf spec do you look at for comparison between pow boards of similar design e.g. nose rocker? Effective Edge?

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Thank you sir.

I couldn't find any Rossignol Judges, but the Salomon Sick stick can still be had -- still a good route to take? I'm looking for a softboot pow board for non-groomer days to ride both serious pow as well as bombing resort pow chop. The Jones Flagship caught my eye, but I've heard reports it's lacking seriously with regard to dampness.

The Hazelwood has some decamber in the nose. Perhaps a bit more taper. I'm not sure beyond that. You look at getting a HB pow board? In that case, the Hazelwood gets the nod from what I understand. I'm a bit in the same boat as I'm looking for a powder setup for softies that I can also bomb the mountain with. I planning to talk with Sean about a shorter Hazewood, perhaps with a blunt tail. I'm presently talking with Sean concerning a hybrid Nomad/Incline for a softbooter friend, and depending on how that works out, I may go that route as well.

The TD3 2nd Board Kit: Will it work with TD2 uppers? Just checking before buying. The cant disc is described for both TD2 and TD3, so I'm presuming the answer is affirmative. Thanks,

SOLD I got these to try, but they proved a size too long for my feet. Former BOLer used them around 5 times and liners used once. I put for 4 days on them. So I'm selling these off to get a shorter pair of UPZs. Come with Intec heels installed as well as the standard heels. The toes have already been trimmed to fit nicely in TD2s. $350 + shipping. I'm willing to ship internationally via USPS.

How many days on them? Giving up softbooting or simply switching to new boots?

Board sold, pending funds.

I actually would be tempted to sell it off, but I put a good, proper, but short, longitudinal crack under the front binding area. So I won't be selling it, though I'll likely still ride it.. That's a good point. I travel with more than one board anway. (I just recently flew United to Bend, OR, with a few days in Portland, with 4 boards in a SportTube. No overweight fees since they never bothered to weigh it before checking it. Woot). Unfortunately my 4807 was my go-to board for powder / tracked powder, to my great chagrin. Would the new FC shape with the de-chamber nose and tail allow it to fair well, even compared to the 4WD and Axxess, in "2 inches of fresh cement over groomed hardpack"? I can't call those days off as that's what I've travelled for and the conditions and experience are still way better than NC / WV et al. You guys are evil. I'm somehow now considering both an alpine board and a pow board. My wallet will likely limit it to one, and I guess I could risk going with the former and hitting Mt Hood next year without a true pow board and hope for the best. Or I could go a pow-specific board that would still yield fun on goomers e.g. Fissle/Nomad/Hazelwood. I'll be lurking for a deal on a softie setup, if only to see if that allows me a wider stance to try out my 4807 with. Who knows; maybe magic will happen then. I actually tried to demo something but couldn't find something pow specific, which I was really bummed about. I was hoping at least a Burton Fish would be available. (The Burton Fish seems like a very common board for the locals on the mountain that day). There's lots of talk about Pow-specific boards, but could you all elaborate your pow-specific board choices? I had previously thought, apparently very incorrectly, of my 4807 as my pow-board. The Fissle has been mentioned. How would the Fissle compare to the Dupraz D1? philw, between the two, do you dig the Stellar or the Fish? Or do you dig another board even more? The shortest board I've ridden in all but the most distant memory is my 167cm Axis, which isn't exactly too much shorter than my 168cm 4807. I don't find either board feeling very long. I think perhaps having something a bit longer may increase my comfort with speed? I guess both of those in tandem is why I'm eyeing something like a Hazelwood over a Nomad.

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Board sold, pending funds. Donek 167cm AX ( Axis / Axxess ) for sale. This was my first 'real' board, but I'm selling it off to fund something new. I got it used from a BOLer here and put about 6 days or so on it. (I don't get out much, being in the southeast). $200 shipped to ConUSA Here are a few pics. I'll try to post the rest of them once the image hoster lets me put up more. Edit: I attached the rest of the pics.

Thanks for the replies. It had a good wax job, as I do my own waxing and tuning. I'll have to put the alpine board purchase on the back burner and pick up a Fissile, Hazelwood, or the like. I'll definitely be asking for additional inserts. Actually, a 4WD or Axxess with extra inserts is a temping route as well. I'll also have to lurk ebay for some good softboot and softboot bindings on the cheap. That may be risky though, as comfort has been an elusive quarry in HBs for me. dingbat, do you ride that Black Diamond with softies or HBs?

I got a bit of a kick out of a couple of venerable skiers digging my intec heels/bails connection. I'd imagine they saw at least a few HBers in passing (this was MtBachelor), but I guess they never noticed stepins before.

Guy looks at my 4807 and/or hardboots and asks me about them. My riding buddy, softbooter, talks about the VSR on his Donek Incline. We ask him what is is riding. His response: "Oh, just a Burton" That became the quote of the week.

As you can see from the post above, my experience is lacking. Otherwise I would just go with what I know. What board do you use for this purpose? Thanks for all the input.

Thanks for the posts guys. I'll be re-reading this thread a few times. The stats on my profile are rather old, but not too far off. I'm at about 5'8" and 160lbs now. Most of the gear is different now too. I have a pretty narrow stance, which is why I think I'm having the issue. My rear foot is towards the front of the rear inserts. I've tried to go wider, but any wider feels weird and ruins my riding. I'm riding front: 6* toe lit, rear: 3* heel lift with a about 20* of that being outward cant. (I'm liking that heel lift with outward cant. That was a new experiment this year). I'm also right-footed but ride goofy, so I tend to ride with my weight biased on my front foot, which doesn't help the issue in powder either. Conditions were chopped up powder of a good foot or so, but a few minimally touched areas were knee to thigh deep. (I had to trudge 100m or so through thigh deep to get back to the lift after one run. That's effort this eastcoster isn't used to). On the chopped up stuff, I seemed to get tossed around due to the hull shape rather than simply going over it, but that effect seemed to dissipate a good bit if I leaned back. On the deep stuff, I was straight-lining, and it struggled to the point of non-trivial deacceleration unless I leaned back. If I leaned back, which felt particularly weird on hard boots, it then planed wonderfully, but of course felt awful. In the past I had only ridden the 4807 on corduroy and mostly unspoiled, heavy powder of, say, a foot or so. This recent experience makes me want to throw it far away and get a true swallowtail. I may spring for a Hazelwood though, based on ( , ), but since this 4807 only cost me $100, if I can modify it into something that serve my purpose, then I can put that money into a FC or the like instead.I eyed a Jones Hovercraft and Donek's Nomad, but I don't ride trees and I like to plane rather than stay in a perpetual off-step state, which, from the very little I've seen, seems to be the case for Hovercraft/BurtonFish et al boards until you really pick up a lot of speed. (Please enlighten me if my impression of these tree boards is lacking). I've eyed the Dupraz D1 as well, but I'm afraid I may have the same issue unless as the 4807 unless the D1 has a uncambered/rockered profile from the front bindings forward. (The 4807 doesn't).

A friend of mine and I hit Mt Bachelor for several days this season. I rode my 4807 168cm for what ended up being an awesome groomer day. The next day, however, a pow day, ended up not being so hot. After one run I knew my center of gravity was too far forward for this board, but I found I already had my front binding as far back as possible and with a 6 degree toe lift as well. This was my first time riding light pow versus the heavier stuff, and what should have been an epic day prove to be a short and annoying one. I vowed never again. Is there a way to add inserts to a board? Or should I go ahead and turn this fishtail into a swallowtail? I may do both, if I can do the former. I'm tempted to just spring for a Donek Nomad or Hazelwood, but I'd like to get a new alpine board instead.

It was an Donek Axis 167cm, with less than nice cosmetic condition. (I'm not sure if the aesthetics were the issue, or if he's just looking for a more alpine, less all mountain).

No problem, Greg. I hope you find what you are looking for.

Hey Greg, I was just about to post a board, but figured I'd check the WTB first. I think I have exactly what you are looking for. It's the Donek that got me up the next level, and how that I have a bit more poke, I'm going to be replacing it with a new Donek. Email en route.

Perfect. Thanks, Mike.

I figured that was you Mellow. Way to promote the sport!