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hehe..anyone have one in pristine condition they'd like to part with?

Just in case you feel like you're the only one crashin' and burnin'.. http://www.pureboarding.com/fileadmin/user_upload/publisher/videos/notp/notperfect_dsl.wmv

Nothing wrong with the camera. Carving on a snowboard looks sharper and smoother in real life, too.:)

I'm interested in getting my 13 yr old hooked up with gear. dibs on these: 25.5 mondo raichle's nitro scorpion rossi race vas. email me at rmoyers@zoominternet.net for payment details.

yo shred.. you ever get up to peaknpeak or holiday valley? I'd be interested in catching up w/ you at some point before the snow gets crappy to ride.

This might warrant a new thread, but it's related to this discussion.. I went out yesterday with both the coiler and the virus. Slope conditions were coming off a 15 deg. night, groomed, nearly ice (prob. granular that had frozen overnight), black and blue runs. temp rose to 25 during day. I have bumped up my angles to 60/58 on both boards due to occasional boot out and was looking for a bit more of a squared hip to tighten up my feed-through actions. First few runs involved washing out (chatter on toeside, board occillation on heelsides) which I diagnosed as needing more angulation and a more upright upper body position through apex and finish of the turn. (others please feel free to comment on this approach). I also decided that a longer board (virus) would compensate a bit for my inconsistent technique that morning. Somewhat better, but I did find that the heelside occillation was cured by throwing BOTH hands towards the one-oclock position (goofy). What this inadvertantly did was cause a laid-out EC type turn with my hands floating ~1inch off the snow! That was cool and I was able to do a couple of toeside turns where my hands were just skimming off the deck. I then realized that I was *extending* during the apex and compressing during the transition, just like Jack and others were saying earlier. While I occasionally still struggled with toeside chatter/heelside occillations, on easy blues/green runs layin' it out was a blast. Not a great day, but it helped me realize that I struggle with consistency and changing snow conditions (and a general lack of expertise on the subject!) Thanks for all the advice offered up here.

Jack, I hear what your saying on this and I agree. For me, though, this is a different tool to use. I relate your reference to what I term "surf-style" and does certainly involve smooth, quiet upper body movements. Maybe if I describe it as keeping low ("sitting in the back seat") and rolling the board underneath me to make the transitions with very little dynamic movements? (just using angulation of knee's and hips to transition from edge to edge.) I also have found my previous description useful in that 'compressing' in the apex seems to lock in the edge much better (read: higher G's!) and the shift of cg rearwards and then extending allows for a much more dynamic (tighter, faster) carve. If I pull it off correctly, I can pop out of the carve and just feel the edge *crunch* into the next turn. I really need someone who can shoot a decent vid segment. Might try tomorrow.

Thoughts? That pic illustrates a Hero-Snow Hoedown! I thought we were talking about riding ice?!! I start my compression once the edge 'finds' it's track in the carve and I have my balance centered. So, probably first 1/8 or 1/6 into the turn. I start to come out of it when my cg is moving rearward (but still over edge) after apex getting ready for extension for transition (maybe 3/4ths or 4/5ths through 'half-c' carve?). I (and this may only apply to my riding!) extend my legs a bit to unweight the edge, transition cg forward (or board back if you like), roll board over to next edge, gradually weight new front edge.

I'll offer this up for comment: When I'm on ice, I've got two common issues that, if I'm NOT doing this, I wash out, skid, or hop the edge (which REALLy f(&k'd up my ankle the two weeks ago when I was on the Virus. Simply due to too much compression force when the edge caught again..and again..and again. still hurts.) 1. reaching for the boot cuff (which I correlate to proper angulation) 2. maintaining my cg directly over the carving edge in a *mostly* seated position. IE: low and stacked. When I'm on the coiler (short-radius board), I can use my legs to kind of pop up out of the carve during transitions and then squat (compress) down into the apex while feeding the board through the turn. Tricky because keeping my cg directly over the edge while all this is going on typically requires more finesse/balance than I've got going on at the moment. Fear of ankle/faceplanting keeps the focus on high alert.

Hey Alexa: Thanks for posting your experiences here. So, if the landowners put up the lifts, do they also groom themselves, or is there a "groomer for hire"? While I have raced motorcycles, mountain bikes and adventure races, I'll probably never get around to alpine, though I love the technical aspects of maximizing speed and control. Would you share what you find most intellectually demanding about racing?

I do much of the same riding: narrow trails that are mostly ice, some blue spots. My non-metal coiler 164 works well, especially in the chopped up (rutted, chunks of ice, small chop bumps) stuff. It glides through this w/o issue. Sit back, ride it surf style, stay over the edge and it will do what you want.

even quirkier is the extremely high angles found on the virus video's. Might as well be 90/90.

Bruce, do these have a definite sidecut radius or an elliptical (progressive, whatever its called..) one? What's your impression of the benefits of one vs the other?

thanks for the review. I may have to order one.. did you ride it centered or set back?

Let's watch now, as Shredliner, cruising on beautiful rollers, releases the drag on his reel...

Yet one more accolade for this board. Could you be more specific in regards to ride quality, handling, turn initiation, board feedback, conditions in which you rode, etc? Compare to other boards you ride? oh yeh, and a pic?

Based on numerous personal trials, I'll take a broken bone over a ligament any day!

What next? "mono-suit"? OH, wait.. this is already available as a BODYBAG! Which is where this idea will go..

looks like a fun hill! 5 hours from me, too. It'd have to be a friday.

can you post a few pics of the board? Thnx.

I've got a 164 with a 7.4 stiffness. I run 170# and it's fine for me.

Ok. I'm up for it. I'm north of Pittsburgh and can ride down sometime this spring/summer. You do lesson's, have the stuff?

Kex, I'm 3 hours west of you on 80. I have slightly wider than average feet and the head stratos pro's fit me the best. I did try on about 4 diff. brands and these felt the widest. My suggestion? We both get a tickey to denver for a 4 day weekend, stop over and see Larry the bootfitter in boulder and tear it up with thor, et al. for the other 3 days. that's gotta be worth more than 2 cents!!

That explains why they didn't seem to give a crap why I just knocked them over.. See, who says I'm socially inept?! I'm sure I'm not the only one who rips down a blue run looking half-decent, get's to the bottom, clicks out ..then falls over..tries to get up again, boot plants on back of board, slips, on my ass again. I have to laugh at myself because NO ONE will even glance my way after one of those fancy dismounts.

this weekend I took out 3 jibbers sliding into the lift line. I spun around backwards and took 'em out like bowling pins. I said "sorry"... they said "nice board!".