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Well said ! It is all about sliding on snow. I am reminded of this anytime I am near kids experiencing their first day on snow. The little girl looking up at Mom with eyes the size of half-dollars and screaming at the top of her lungs. "MOMMY , I'M SLIDING". Yep. we are sliding , and it is damn good fun. Slide more!! The passion of alpine snowboarding is alive and well, share it with others , be kind and it will continue to grow. We are really living the historic second alpine wave. Much like skateboarding has had numerous rise and fall cycles. Enjoy being on the cutting edge of the cycle, old companies dropping the lines, new companies building for a small niche of hard core riders . Enjoy it for fact that the equipment (although limited) is available, enjoy it for excellent grooming that is now found nearly everywhere, enjoy it for the positive "Bro" factor that exists on open forums like BOL. It is a good time in the history of alpine snowboarding. Glad I was here with all those that understood how much fun sliding on snow is!

I would have to aggree with your accessment! I have to admit, I truely savor the fact that "Alpine Snowboarding" is out of the main stream. When I started snowboarding (WARNING, here comes, blah,blah,Old, blah) most people thought you were "NUT" to even consider bolting yourself down on a slab of plywood. It was not NORMAL. Snowboarding was seen as "Crazy, Rebelious, Dangerous) Heaven forbid!!! I recall a time when IF I saw another snowboarder on the hill, we were instant "Bros" and likely would ride together the rest of the day. It was" What are you on? , where did you get those "Rad" bindings? What do you think of those new boards without swallowtails??" Sound familiar? Good on you for KNOWING what works, what is fun and enjoying the uniqueness of our methods of sliding. It was not that long ago that a major magazine labelled snowboarding as the "Worst New Sport" . They can and are often wrong. Follow the flow of what turns your crank. Be open to any and all new ideas until proven "wrong" by your own trial. Carve it up!! Alpine snowboarders are the Rebels of todays snowboarding. Going against the "NORM" for the purest reasons. Enjoy it. Bryan

Kevin, are you looking for the Burton Kids plate?? Is that what you are after? Let me know the model and make and I will see if I can locate them . I do have some Jr bindings made by Wombat. Remember them? Bryan

http://www.lib-tech.com/0405/01L.htm You old school guys definitely have to check out the link above. Look for the Richie Head. Going back to the early "Fireman Daves" or FD graphics. I wonder if it will have the table cloth top sheet texture? PS, yes these boards did have 1/4-20 inserts. An example of Mike's individualism and willingness to go his own way. May not have been a great marketing move but good example of his not following the "Norm" either. I respect that. Historically Lib-Tech has been willing to test the edge. Good luck to them.

I am not sure about the marketing business, and what Lib_Tech may or may not be using for driving the sales. What I will say in defence is that Lib-Tech has always been a snowboard company, they still make boards in the USA, and I have seen little to make me think Mike Olson is anything short of inventive , colorfull and a man of his own mind. Most snowboard companies are now owned or operated by huge ski companies and almost all are now cranked out by mega factories in China. PS. Lib-Tech builds one hell of a longboard series too. Doubt they make allot of money on that line. Probably supported by the fact that Mike and good ole boys and Lib still rip the Pow at Mt Baker when possible. So, the cutting edge of edge design may be wiggling or it might be just another blip on snowboards historical radar screen. Time WILL tell. Enjoy, Bryan PS The Shalom board grahics below where created as a back-lash to the ever increasing production of snowboards created by ski companies . Specifically Salomon. At the time, the ski companies that once thumbed their noses at "Knuckle Draggers" were ramping up production of snowboards as a way to make money and save the ailing ski industry , as they say , "The rest is history".

BOL members. Great to see all the comments on the old school videos!! One of the features I would like to have on my site is an archive of snowboard videos. Particularly focused on early videos and carving videos. Those are what I am partial to. It occurred to me many of the BOL members might be willing to contribute "Write-ups" above the movies? With the write ups and photos I have in the archives of all these great movies , we could put together a pretty cool listing of all these old flicks? Just a thought. Format something like a "Highlights" write up , list of riders, play time, date filmed, significant carving scenes and historically significant moments. Thanks again. Bryan

Ted, I would be interested in the 4x4 cant. If the Alpental rider doesn't want them. Happy to paypal you or send shipping label ?? Alpental rider, if it is for your style board check out the The palmer riser. They come in a variety of styles , cant degrees etc. I know at least one BOL rider using them just for the clearance and leverage they provide. If you are looking specifically for 3-D (which is Burton's coined term) They used to call them "Min" or Max" cants , either 3 or 6 degree. They also made one that had a bunch of parts , I don't recall off hand what that one was called. I have several sets of the min cants. However they are still mounted on board that didn't have inserts and I might want to drag them out and go for a "Oldschool" ride. I will see if I can come up with some photos in the archives if that helps. Bryan

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3693523000&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 Here is a 170cm Scott that should fit the bill nicely.

Hey Dan, sounds like you are making good use of your MLY longboard!! My guess , time and moderation will provide plenty of miles and pleasure!! Good on ya! Bryan

http://www.windells.com/ Not to mention Tim is a great guy! He is all about the kids! The facilities continue to expand at a terrific rate. Tim has put an enormous amount of sweat equity into his camp programs. Might be a great place to host a "Carve Camp" in the winter too! The camp compound is made from a sprawling Motel , IE "Lots of Rooms" . Winter camps are still new and building momentum. Time to start a tradition with Windell's as a base camp?? Skates , check out the skate page for sure!! Enjoy!

Does it look like the second board from the left? I think this was the last model Rossignol produced. Couple 3 years ago now. Shame.

Awesome!! Well done! Now I definitely need to dig out a couple oldies!! The links were from 96 forward. I think you will get a kick out of some of their early boards. Thanks, Bryan

Cool! Love to see it. The site is going through some changes and forgive some of the dead ends. I have been focused on the "Links Page". I have a few "Heavy Tools" , however they are free-style boards. Known for their interesting shapes and wild artsy graphics. I don't recall seeing any alpine or races models. Look forward to seeing the photos and hearing if any BOL members have history on them. I am guessing Nils might have some insight into the history of the company. Thanks, Bryan

By all means post a good photo of the top sheet and bottom. Vintage board. I am not sure if I understood you , is this an alpine board? Thanks, Bryan

Thanks! Any format will do!! .jpg is probably ideal. If you want to send larger files that I can edit you are welcome to send them directly to me through the website webmaster@oldsnowboards.com Thanks for the photos , all interesting boards that will make great additions to the gallery. Note: Your photo is done so I can probably still seperate them for listing in their respective brands. However if I was to "Ask for the world" They would be seperate and against a solid background. Keep in mind, most of mine are not against an ideal backdrop and I am happy to take anything. Your photos are excellent! Thank you. Bryan I have a request for some Aggression "Stealths". Anyone remember them?? Super shifted sidecut. Narrow and some of the most radical of the "Asymetric Era". Early 90s. Thanks again for contributing!

Here is the Rossi Gallery. According to the seller the Rossi 171cm Throttle is a custom factory ride built for one of the racers at the time, specs don't match the original Throttle. It is new old stock. I think it is time to take it out for a ride. Pretty stiff, narrow, just like I like them. Wish it was at least a 185 though. Still like the WC and the way it rides. Lots of snap if you push it hard. Enjoy! Bryan http://www.oldsnowboards.com/rossignol_alpine_gallery/index.html The photos with a gray background were taken this afternoon. Most of the others have been sold or traded out or I never owned in the first place. Let me know if there is any interest in other board brands. At some point I would like to have a good gallery of alpine boards posted on the site. If you have good bright photos of your boards , they would be appreciated.

Dug out some Rossignol Alpine boards today and took some fresh photos for all that admire them. I will generate a new gallery later tonight and send the link. Here is a group photo. Enjoy! Bryan

Here are a few more photos of Rosi alpine boards. A couple versions of the Throttle in the mix. Enjoy! Bryan UPDATED, link removed, will be added to and uploaded again later in this thread.

A fellow rider really summed it up last year while riding up on the chair lift. There are so few ways to learn good carving tech. , few areas offer alpine lessons or rentals. You really need to serve an "Apprenticeship" , hook up with a seasoned rider who has a positive out look and patience. As you can tell by the conversations here on BOL, most of the guys that love alpine snowboarding also love to share it. Seek and your teacher will find you. Look around and watch for another rider to hang out with. If you never see another alpine rider , get of as much video as you can, read all the BOL FAQs, then get out there and log as much time as possible on the mountain. The board is important , however time on the hill on ANY alpine board is better than NOT. Your energy and desire will take you far. Enjoy!! PS Get the video camera out , have someone take photos of you riding, then compare to the photos you see. I am sure you will get plenty of positive feedback from the guys here if you post them. Next best thing to being there!!

Is that what you seek? I still see them from time to time. I have a number of sets that I am saving for that elusive Lonnie Toft 10" to complete the Flying yellow banana "Ski-board". Very handy for jumping the bigger boards too. The "almost mt board" type skateboard set ups.

Rosi made a number of carving boards with VAS. Anti Vibration System. Everything from softer free carve to race boards. A good photo will help Id it. My guess it is a good , moderate free carving board with a fairly wide waist?? Shame they stopped making alpine boards, they did a great job for years. Shannon Melhuse was involved in the early alpine designs and did very well on them. I ride the WC 190cm from time to time, fairly stiff, low nose, carves hard. Super hard chargers do occasionally break the core, a friend has broken 2 of them. He nick named them "Exploders". He is VERY hard on his toys!!

Thanks guys, my pleasure. If you are looking for your old ride or have an old board you would like to sell let me know. If you have interest in the history of snowboarding , you might check out this book from the library , or your local book store. Susanne Howe is the author and she does a great job of staying unbiased. Lot of great early photos. I think it lists for 21.95$ I offer it on Ebay for half that. If anyone from Bomber wants a brand new copy I will ship it to your door (USA only) for 10$ even. Great , easy read. You can check out some photos here. Check out the one of Peter and Jean !! Very Euro. Freshies on the hard boots! Thanks, Bryan http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3689487254&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT http://www.oldsnowboards.com//D/sick%20pj.jpg bobdea "OLD", at 23yrs, Dude!! I have snowboards older than you!! At 47 , and 20 years of snowboarding, I didn't start snowboard until I was older than you are now!. Just a reference point when you wake up sore. Count your blessings my friend! Some of your seniors here on BOL , ride hard 4-5 days a week in the winter, I have a feeling they had a chuckle at your "OLD" comment. Ride hard , ride smart , enjoy your youth! :) :D Keep in mind, boards just 10 years old may be considered "Vintage" in such a young sport. However, if you have had a chance to check out the first issue of "Snowboard Journal", you know about the snowboard from 1918 http://www.snowboardjournal.com/Issue001.html NOW THAT IS OLD!! Could be your Great Grandpa's snowboard!! Enjoy!!Bryan

I was inspired by Cindy's question and Jack's (always eloquent and succinct) comments to build a quickie gallery of some older alpine equipment. Enjoy! Should bring back some memories. Please: Accept my appology in advance about not having a back button , and no, they are not all my snowboards. http://www.oldsnowboards.com/vintage_alpine_gallery/ I would add that Avalanche "Bet the farm" on the plate bindings. The "Uni-Plate" , similar to a crampon without the teeth. Burton built the Express 175 and Safari I, II and III to answer the needs of the downhill racers , gs and salom courses. Sims built a "2000" or 200cm snowboard that was rare , yet took Craig and a few others to the podium. For sure, the early years of alpine where dominated by the Euros. We "Ruled" the pipe and bump contests while we often took 3rd to Peter B and John N.. Check out the links to the early CAT and Bomber bindings. Only seems fair to post the two companies from the US that took up the Alpine Torch. The need born out of too many broken bindings on the race course. Well done gentlemen!! I wish you both great success in the future. "You Carve, You Carve, You Carve". Bryan of oldsnowboards.com

Currently offering 125$ Delivered for TD1s in good to excellent condtion. They must be complete and un-altered . Any combination of cants discs and bumpers are acceptable. Please send clear bright photos for quick cash. Paypal available. Thanks, Bryan Also buying TD2s for up to 170$ delivered. Quick summer cash. Happy to trade boards, skateboards, long boards, carving boards etc. Fellow collectors are welcome, always happy to help other "Fill In" there collections.

Long time collector Always buying vintage snowboarding items of any kind. Early wood "Pre-edge", "Pre-P-Tex" boards are of the most interest also swallowtails, big boards, early race items, mags, posters, videos, banners and skateboards tied to snowboarding. www.oldsnowboards.com Currently offering 125$ Delivered for TD1s in good to excellent condtion. They must be complete and un-altered . Any combination of cants discs and bumpers are acceptable. Please send clear bright photos for quick cash. Paypal available. Thanks, Bryan