snowboardfast Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Does any one have a Swoard for sale. I am 5'10" tall and 185 lbs.I would demo one at Bomber but they don't have any. anyone in Colorado have 1 I could try?It looks like a fun board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfinsmiley Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 The Alpine carving site says that the old burton speed wide could be a poor mans swoard. You might have better luck coming across one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordy Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Donek is the answer tell sean billy said so! He will make you the shape you want that out rides the crummy swoard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Good luck finding one. Some don't like them but after going through about 20 boards of many shapes and lengths over the past few years, I have the most fun on the swoard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Donek is the answer tell sean billy said so!He will make you the shape you want that out rides the crummy swoard! http://www.gforcecarving.com/products.html Greets, Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Coiler also makes a "similar to Swoard" shape as well. I demoed the real thing from Bordy's demo fleet at SES. I wasn't a fan - but I wonder if some of that wasn't because I was on the wrong model for my size. 175 soft - too soft for my 195 pounds, not by looking at the spec sheet, it just felt too soft to have any kind of stability at any kind of speed. I honestly felt better on my Donek Wide 161 w/ softies. But if I had the chance to try a 175 Medium or a 168 stiff, I have an open mind and would try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 The Swoard isn't as stable at speed as many other boards. I guess you give up some of that stability to get something else, like lightness, shape, torsional stiffness, or who knows what. I don't ride very fast so I'm happy with it. I'm starting to be a real fan of the wide carving board idea. I base my opinion entirely on how much fun I have. Coiler also makes a "similar to Swoard" shape as well. Dig: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdboytyler Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I rode a friend's Swoard for a few days and liked it a lot. Easy to ride, great edge hold, and makes it easier to EC. Instead of buying a Swoard, I went with a custom Donek with Oympic construction, which ends up more expensive than the Swoard, but definately worth the extra money. Custom Donek Review For a poor man's Swoard, you could also check out the Burton UltraPrime 168. It has a 20 cm waist and 12.2m scr. Another poor man's Swoard is the Oxygen Proton, which I just happen to have for sale: http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?t=10826 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK2TX2CA Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Don't forget the board Jacques Rilliet put together while at Wild Duck the Knifer board too: Length: 161cm even thought it's marked 165cm Effective edge: 145cm Sidecut: 11 meter Nose: 26cm Waist: 21cm Tail: 25.5cm Length / running length / waist width / sidecut radius 161 cm / 145 cm / 21 cm / 11.1 m While the SWORD: Length / running length / waist width / sidecut radius 161 cm / 142 cm / 21 cm / 12.1 m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paappraiser Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 how you like the wide coiler ex? wow a old duck like mine... 10.5M side cut stiff as heck.. fun to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Przemek/Brooklyn Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 i bought that one your try from bomber for 300$ and i love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfinsmiley Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Steve, Could you tell us the specs on that Coiler in the photo? Looks like it could fit my yeti sized feet on it without having to set the angles in the range of ridiculous.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 It's a 176, waist is 23.2 cm. I have 10.5" feet, wear Raichle AF650 boots and running 55/50 angles with F2 race Ti bindings (standard, not stepin) takes me right to the edge on the rear foot. The edge hold is better than anything I have ever ridden. I think the stiffness is 7.6, not sure how that relates to anything. My weight is 180. In a hard carve, the nose of the Swoard bends more than the Coiler, which seems to hold more of a consistant shape through its length. So I guess the nose is stiffer. The Coiler seems slightly heavier and more stable. The Swoard feels a little lighter and more maneuverable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 wear Raichle AF650 boots Dold is so damn cool he has a boot model that none of us even know about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Wait, I mean AF 600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 darn. I was about ready to get all excited! that coiler looks badASS, man. leave it to Bordy to drop the "swoard sucks"... and the link to the greek carver...that page doesnt seem to be workin well. Cant see the specs or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Thanks Dave. It's really fun to ride. I still like the Swoard a lot. These days I mostly ignore whatever anyone else says about a board, no matter how good they are or think they are, unless I know them and their style and board preference. Now I just ride it myself and see if I like it or not. The best rider I ever saw once told me that Doneks weren't very good based on a couple of models he had ridden, then later he told me that he had changed his mind and thought they were pretty good after riding a couple more models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paappraiser Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Thanks Dave. It's really fun to ride. I still like the Swoard a lot. These days I mostly ignore whatever anyone else says about a board, no matter how good they are or think they are, unless I know them and their style and board preference. huh are you riding the coiler or the swoard? coiler has a few models of the EX 168 x 22 x 12.7m 170 x 22 x 12.7m 176 x 22 x 13.2m 176 x 23.2 x 13.2m have you ridden the coiler alot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I have the 175M Swoard and the 176 x 23.2 Coiler. I have about 12 hours on the Coiler over three days. About 1 hour was in 6" trracked powder and everything else was on mostly firm snow with ice chunks from the groomer tracks, and slush. I hated it in the powder because I'm not very skilled in powder and had a hard time steering it. I have about 20 days on the Swoard. Jim Farr rode my Swoard and his 170 EX on the same day and thought the 170 EX held its edge better. I don't know how the same shape holds an edge better on one board than another, these are just impressions we get from riding them. But I do definitely notice the nose of the Coiler bending less than the Swoard, not that I'm complaining about it. I could very well be loading the nose of the Swoard too much, my riding style is sometimes very half-assed and sloppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 its probably those AF650s, man. Get some real boots! I wanna ride the coiler Ex. pleeeeeeeze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfinsmiley Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 OH man, I didn`t know there were boards like that available from Coiler! I want exactly that same board. To me, it sounds like the perfect carving machine. I`ve had a go on a few "standard" width boards over the last season and nothing comes close to being wide enough for me, I get nasty boot-out on my Tanker 200 if I run angles under 45.:( They say patience is a virtue though don`t they. Thanks for the insight. Most gratefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Sub Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 donek has some wider carvers, too. Check their specs page. some 22cm race boards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I wanna ride the coiler Ex. pleeeeeeeze?Let me put some scratches in it first :) How wide is a Tanker 200? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paappraiser Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I have the 175M Swoard and the 176 x 23.2 Coiler. I have about 12 hours on the Coiler over three days. About 1 hour was in 6" trracked powder and everything else was on mostly firm snow with ice chunks from the groomer tracks, and slush. I hated it in the powder because I'm not very skilled in powder and had a hard time steering it. I have about 20 days on the Swoard. Jim Farr rode my Swoard and his 170 EX on the same day and thought the 170 EX held its edge better. I don't know how the same shape holds an edge better on one board than another, these are just impressions we get from riding them. But I do definitely notice the nose of the Coiler bending less than the Swoard, not that I'm complaining about it. I could very well be loading the nose of the Swoard too much, my riding style is sometimes very half-assed and sloppy. So what is your impression of the coiler? Like - no like? Are you doing EC turns or just hard carving? Just curious... im having Bruce build me a AM (177X 11.5 radiusX 20cm) Im toying with the idea for another board. I just would like the 1 or 2 board quiver ( I have like 6 in the quiver now!.. Ill get rid of a few of them next season) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dold Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I think the Coiler is great, it's my favorite board. The Swoard is a close second. I really like having a little more heel/toe control than I did with the narrower boards. I mostly just carve at average speeds making average turns. I think the board is perfect for "EC" turns, I try it once in a while and can sometimes link a couple on both the Swoard and the Coiler, but it's pretty rare and the snow has to be just right. I'm not a good EC carver. The Coiler seems to hold the edge better when trying that, but the Swoard is still good at it. I bet that someone who really knows how to ride the thing on the edge would rip on it big time. I am on the list for another Coiler and will probably get the exact same board, if that tells you anything This time I'll probably try to get a custom topsheet, although I think the maple leaf looks pretty cool. I get a lot of compliments on it. It really makes the square tail stand out in the lift line, people behind me are always commenting on the board. One kid called my board "Sick" last weekend. I'm pretty sure that means he liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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