johnstewart Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I've read about it before here, but thankfully never experienced it. But crap, I've got it bad now. Probably it started with a few crashes with big chatter on an icy day last weekend. My rear (left) shin hurts like hell every time I pressure into a turn. Freeriding I can manage somewhat okay (on a small hill), but every time down the race course is an exercise in masochism. I've tried a different liner; I've tried shoving some extra foam in the boot next to the area that is sensitive. Nothing really seems to help. I've got soft Raichle 124's. I've been thinking of upgrading my boots anyway. A good idea? I've had my eye on those Head Stratus Pros for a while (though never tried them on). Perhaps a higher boot? Any other suggestions? This is killing me because I may have just found a way to get out to nationals for NASTAR, but hell, I don't know if it's worth the expense and the drive if I'm not going to be able to ride. I've broken my wrist, my finger, smashed up my face, and bruised up every part of my body in this sport. This is the worst injury yet, because it's stopping me from riding!! =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acitarella Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Get Boosters. http://www.bootfitters.com/booster.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstewart Posted March 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Get Boosters. http://www.bootfitters.com/booster.htm I've heard that suggested... but I don't think they'd work with my boots. I have 123's (attached picture). I modded these by taking off the top velcro strap and replacing it with a buckle (as with the other 3 below it). I don't know where a booster strap would fit; there's not really much room above the top strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Buy yourself a set of shintronics. No shinbang ever, more control and more pressure on your edges, www.manoove.com I tried them for a week now and I will use them every time I go out. I first used boosters but the shintronics are a way better solution. Greets, Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstewart Posted March 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Buy yourself a set of shintronics. No shinbang ever, more control and more pressure on your edges, www.manoove.com Ouch... $62 for a pair to the US. Pretty pricey. I tried them for a week now and I will use them every time I go out. I first used boosters but the shintronics are a way better solution. You can also try Shintronics from www.manoove.com. Helped me out. So have you had them one week, or 5 weeks? Anyone else tried these? thanks johnS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Was on a winterholiday last week in Haus (Austria). I just wear them six full days from 10:00 till 17:00. No problems, the longer you wear them, the better they will be. The product is new for this season, invented by a dutchman. Another satisfied user: http://www.extremecarving.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1976&highlight=shintronics and other solutions. (I have no mountains here so I got the shins about a month ago and tried them in a snowhall with artificial snow, www.snowworld.nl) Hope this helps. Greets, Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acitarella Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Part of the issue you are still experiencing is the strap you've created. The Booster or your strap should go around the liner (i.e. soft internal part of your boot) so that there is zero space between your liner and your shin. Placing the Booster or the strap you’ve created that goes around the shell means that there is likely still space between the shin and liner. To give you an idea, I tighten my Booster before I do my top buckle on my boots, and then I tighten the top buckle so the shell goes over the Booster. My 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Looking at the shintronics, one wonders if a decent set of soccer shinguards might do the same thing. Easier to source and probably cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Looking at the shintronics, one wonders if a decent set of soccer shinguards might do the same thing. Easier to source and probably cheaper? Soccer shinguards are made of hard plastic so they will not fit perfectly. Shintronics are made out of neoprene and have a V-form due to the two replacable pads in the inner part (you can change the place of the pads if you like) The shintronics will form to your shins and boots after use of a few hours, the soccershinguards won't. Shintronics: because the pressure on your shins will be put on a higher place, your lower shins will be having lower pressure. Also the pressure is placed over a broader area because of the shintronics. The shintronics will be about for three or four cm. in your boot, the rest of it will be above your boots. I had to try some with these but after 15 minutes of use you will notice when the position is not right, too much pressure on your (back) calves. Greets, Hans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinecure Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Just an FYI, there's a place online called BomberOnline that sells Booster straps. I recommend giving them your business before anyone else. The shintronics thing looks interesting, but I don't need any more crap to strap on my body in the morning. I have way too much stuff now. Another Link to the BOL page for the Booster Straps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTA2R Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I got it pretty bad this year too, also on my rear foot. x rays last week confirmed no stress fracture, just brusing. Time certainly helps , so does icing. I also wear an ACE ankle brace (not the wrap kind) over my sock, it can't hurt. what has really helped me though is the cheap version of the shin tronic, the Eliminator Tongue http://www.bootfitters.com/eliminator.htm keep in mind I have skinny legs so that was part of my problem, but these were $25 I think and come in different sizes. Some BOLers have also made homemade contraptions. good luck and ice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I've had severe shinbang in the past with UPZ boots...never did get that licked and eventually switched back to Raichles. I think a heat-molded liner might help you if you do upgrade your boot though - I got my Raichle liner molded and I haven't had any foot pain at all ever since. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstewart Posted March 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 I think a heat-molded liner might help you if you do upgrade your boot though - I got my Raichle liner molded and I haven't had any foot pain at all ever since. Aye; I do have thermoforms in the Raichle's, and they are damnned comfortable... until now. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstewart Posted March 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 what has really helped me though is the cheap version of the shin tronic, the Eliminator Tongue Is this plastic, or just a foam piece? I stopped by a dive shop today, and headed back tomorrow to get some scrap neoprene to see what I can cobble up for cheap. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobD Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 John I had shin bang after a bad chatter experience like you, two seasons ago. I found that I really had to pull the thermoflex liners tight around my shin as I tightened the buckles (need three hands to make it easy). I haven't tried it, but someting like duct tape on the liner overlaps might reduce the friction and allow the cuff to tighten more. Other than that, unless I think I'm going to hit something I keep my board off the snow when I fall. BobD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 The shintronics look really good - if you look at the pictures carefully, especially on the pdf brochure, you can see that the padding is split around the shin to spread the load more to the front/sides of the calf. This looks like it could work pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTA2R Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 I always try to do that, as long as it isn't a recoverable fall, since I have hurt my ankle before digging an edge while sliding. yeah i just "discovered" this technique this past weekend. seems relatively easy, extra padding round the knees (specially if the snow is hard/icy) may increase comfort when doing this. I imagine doing when falling heelside may be a bit harder, almost like a crunch. JohnStewart, the Eliminator tongues i have are foam, shaped in the shape of a leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Ryan* Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Had a similar experience early this year. Tried a variety of things to pad the area, but ultimately all were insufficient. I simply re-injured my shin every time I rode. Ice can help, but works best as an ice massage. Take a small paper cup filled with water, freeze, remove top 1/2 of paper cup to expose ice, rub 5-10 min. Fairly unpleasant but works a bit better to calm things down after riding. Alternatively, I work as a physical therapist and found that after 3-4 treatments of ultrasound over 4 days improved things significantly allowing me to continue riding (1-2x/wk) and in a couple weeks to ride pain free. May be worth seeing a PT if insurance allows. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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