softbootsurfer Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 http://vimeo.com/15695887 Mr. Pure Carve I believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utahcarver Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Hey, is that Cliff Ahumada, Joey Cabell, and Mike Doyle? Nice turns going on there, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Hey, is that Cliff Ahumada, Joey Cabell, and Mike Doyle?Nice turns going on there, Mark Yo Mark...This is all CliffDawg alias "Milkman" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utahcarver Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I thought it was a compilation of riders, my bad. The Milkman has a certain style that can be seen on the clip along with the ponytail. He throws himself into the turn more than might be necessary. A very committed turn initiation that is a reminder of our surfing roots. Thanks for the vid! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I thought it was a compilation of riders, my bad. The Milkman has a certain style that can be seen on the clip along with the ponytail. He throws himself into the turn more than might be necessary. A very committed turn initiation that is a reminder of our surfing roots. Thanks for the vid!Mark Love It Mark! All the Surfers I know, Surf the Mountain Have a Great Season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Finally! Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted November 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 SlowMo Flexin... YaBra http://vimeo.com/16964229 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Cool. The other one with Mike D. in slow mo is fun to watch too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Thanks SBS! Pure Carve guys are my favorite crowd to watch! Someone told me before and this close up slomo confirmed it, Cliff rides with HUGE underhang on the front foot! Surf background showing, I guess... I always struggle to initiate my toeside carves with too much underhang. A question: Are these mostly older clips? In other words, is Ahumada still on a Maverick, or he switched to a newer board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softbootsurfer Posted November 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 I have only seen Bromada on his equipment... He rides the edge and knows how to utilize a softer stick also it helps to be on a deserted run with perfect conditions He is a Cold Surfer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Makes me wanting to claim my woody Mav back from Tenorman and give it a go in the early season. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utahcarver Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Wow, that's a great perspective that Cliff (Ahumada) used for the slo-mo video. And, I did not realize that he was using clothing and equipment that changed color while carving. This is truly a breakthrough in fashion awareness for all of us carvers. :) Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkman Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Thanks SBS! Pure Carve guys are my favorite crowd to watch! Someone told me before and this close up slomo confirmed it, Cliff rides with HUGE underhang on the front foot! Surf background showing, I guess... I always struggle to initiate my toeside carves with too much underhang. A question: Are these mostly older clips? In other words, is Ahumada still on a Maverick, or he switched to a newer board? Not sure what you mean by HUGE underhang? The clip is from last year. I still ride my Mavericks. I demo boards for fun throughout the season. I still ride Nordica boots and sno pro bindings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkman Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Wow, that's a great perspective that Cliff (Ahumada) used for the slo-mo video. And, I did not realize that he was using clothing and equipment that changed color while carving. This is truly a breakthrough in fashion awareness for all of us carvers. :)Mark I know...my wife tells me I am a walking fashion statement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkman Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 I thought it was a compilation of riders, my bad. The Milkman has a certain style that can be seen on the clip along with the ponytail. He throws himself into the turn more than might be necessary. A very committed turn initiation that is a reminder of our surfing roots. Thanks for the vid!Mark I may throw myself into turns, but never felt it was more than necessary. Way easier to ride without the pony tail. My roots are surfing, my vision is surfing when carving. That really bothers some on Bomber for whatever reason, that I refer to my style of riding as "surfstyle carving". Its not surfing, its snowboarding with a vision and feel that myself and some other surfers have when laying it out and working the hill depending on conditions, crowds, tide, wind, swell size and direction! My favorite swell direction at the Milk is out of the north w/ a touch of west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueB Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Not sure what you mean by HUGE underhang? The clip is from last year. I still ride my Mavericks. I demo boards for fun throughout the season. I still ride Nordica boots and sno pro bindings. Hi Cliff, great to have you in the discussion! It's about your wonderful riding, after all ;) Please note that nothing I said was in a manner of criticism. As I said, I admire your riding and films. It is all just for the matter of interest. I said huge underhang, as it looked, from that perspective, there was about 3 fingers of space between the board's toe edge and the boot. I couldn't really judge the heel side. I really do no initiate the toeside turns well with lots of underhang on the front boot. What is the secret? Initiation mostly by the rear boot, ebnabled by relativelly narrow stance? Oh, by the way, I rode in Nordica ski boots for couple of seasons, just to shift over to Dalbellos :) Love my Snowpros too, besides the Bombers and Proflex/Carve RS. Ride on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hey milkman what angles are you set at. Your riding is how every new alpine/softboot rider should try to emulate, smooth and controlled. Great videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utahcarver Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 I may throw myself into turns, but never felt it was more than necessary. Way easier to ride without the pony tail. My roots are surfing, my vision is surfing when carving. That really bothers some on Bomber for whatever reason, that I refer to my style of riding as "surfstyle carving". Its not surfing, its snowboarding with a vision and feel that myself and some other surfers have when laying it out and working the hill depending on conditions, crowds, tide, wind, swell size and direction! My favorite swell direction at the Milk is out of the north w/ a touch of west. Cliff: Well said, my friend, well said. Let me qualify my 'more than necessary' comment above: If you or anyone has ever seen the film documentary 'Dogtown', or been sitting in a surf lineup, or sessioned a pool or skatepark, or had a bitching carving day on the slopes, we've all experienced that moment when we concentrate our rage, angst, concerns of the day or week, and focus all of our energies into the next run or next move or trick. Aggression. This aggression is not meant to harm or destroy in a permanent sense. It's an expression that allows us as surfers, skaters, or carvers to express our commitment to line, style, and focus on the moment. Board sports are a dance form that allow for all types of expression from the dancer. Aggro-riding styles are what I cut my teeth on. Your style of diving and driving into the turn is what I was trying to convey in my 'more than necessary' comment. Not so much a compliment as a way of saying that this guy is saying something with his riding. He's dancing, driving, diving, and he owns this hill. I look forward to seeing your riding style on video as much as I can. Your aggro style tells me you are surfer first and you carry this over to your on-hill antics. Keep that stoke up my friend!!! Still riding my Maverick, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkman Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Cliff: Well said, my friend, well said. Let me qualify my 'more than necessary' comment above: If you or anyone has ever seen the film documentary 'Dogtown', or been sitting in a surf lineup, or sessioned a pool or skatepark, or had a bitching carving day on the slopes, we've all experienced that moment when we concentrate our rage, angst, concerns of the day or week, and focus all of our energies into the next run or next move or trick. Aggression. This aggression is not meant to harm or destroy in a permanent sense. It's an expression that allows us as surfers, skaters, or carvers to express our commitment to line, style, and focus on the moment. Board sports are a dance form that allow for all types of expression from the dancer. Aggro-riding styles are what I cut my teeth on. Your style of diving and driving into the turn is what I was trying to convey in my 'more than necessary' comment. Not so much a compliment as a way of saying that this guy is saying something with his riding. He's dancing, driving, diving, and he owns this hill. I look forward to seeing your riding style on video as much as I can. Your aggro style tells me you are surfer first and you carry this over to your on-hill antics. Keep that stoke up my friend!!!Still riding my Maverick, Mark Hi Mark, Thank u Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkman Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hey milkman what angles are you set at. Your riding is how every new alpine/softboot rider should try to emulate, smooth and controlled. Great videos I ride front foot steep...65 degrees or so...back more open and it varies upon what mountain I am riding here in Aspen. At the Milk I keep it pretty open around 48 degrees but move it more closed when the terrain is steeper so I dont boot out. I have thoughts on why I believe boards are becoming to narrow for free carving (not racer) but thats for another day! Thank u for the props on the videos. I look forward to shooting new talent this winter here in Aspen. I will for sure be high lighting the different riding styles of those who roll into town. I will be at Highlands every Weds morning (if the sun is out and its good) casually hosting a reserved carving run sesh and also at the Milk (still working out the details). Like I did years ago. Should be fun, hope u can make it for a rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopestar Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 I may throw myself into turns, but never felt it was more than necessary. Way easier to ride without the pony tail. My roots are surfing, my vision is surfing when carving. That really bothers some on Bomber for whatever reason, that I refer to my style of riding as "surfstyle carving". Its not surfing, its snowboarding with a vision and feel that myself and some other surfers have when laying it out and working the hill depending on conditions, crowds, tide, wind, swell size and direction! My favorite swell direction at the Milk is out of the north w/ a touch of west. Love it> I feel the same way but I have been a softy rider since 88'. I love to hang a thousand bottom turns and cutbacks on the mountain. Keep it up! It is a hardbooter world here but you have to respect anyone that rocks it on over! Hang rail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Could someone please tell me what the song in the video is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Donnelly Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Lupe Fiasco's "shinning down" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_ravens Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Enjoy all of Cliff's videos that I've seen, but especially like this one. Thanks for posting SBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveInOregon Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Dat is sweet-ness, love the style / flow. I was raised on long boards n reef breaks in so Cal even tho I dont have all the alp experience You do , not to mention that buttermilk beauty groom to do it on. I relate so much more to Your way of freely moving down the mountain than the usual scripted metronome time signature beat of extreme heel then extreme toe ( repeat 20 times then stop ) type of carving. Also I really like how You talk about the work week, aggression etc.... your editing it top notch too it too really flows too. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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