mikel45 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Any skwal riders here to start discussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwalann Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 There are a few of us with a few screws loose, a few cards short of a full deck.... oh wait, that wasn't the question. Yeah, there are some skwal riders here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufty Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 You'll get more mileage at http://skwalzone.org/forums3/index.php and http://www.skwalzone.org/technique1.php, I suspect. you might want some translation via google, a lot of the posts are in French Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwalann Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 I'd just ask and see if we can steer you in the wrong direction eerrrrrrr, I mean, right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantok Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Still figuring things out myself. Depends on your question,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Great .... here are a few questions for starters: - BTS system on boots, is it also advantageous for skwaling? - skwal board limited to groomed slopes, true / false? - what is approx. binding distance between front foot and back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Prokopiw Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 I had one long ago(a Lacroix 180) that I rode all over Copper mountain when I worked there.I jumped it off cornices,spun 3's on it...I did not ride it backwards much but a turned up tail would have made that more possible:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 entertaining the idea of mounting skiboard bindings on regular parabolic ski and / or snowboard - how crazy is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufty Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 - BTS system on boots, is it also advantageous for skwaling? Dunno. RAB doesn't seem to hurt, but doesn't help much either. - skwal board limited to groomed slopes, true / false? false. Some skwals ride better offpiste and in the crud, though. - what is approx. binding distance between front foot and back? 4cm (about an inch and three quarters) rear toe to front heel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwalann Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 entertaining the idea of mounting skiboard bindings on regular parabolic ski and / or snowboard - how crazy is that? VERY... I seriously doubt that those options would be stiff enough. My skwal eats the crud and lumpy runs for a late afternoon snack... It also tears the groom up too. BTS?!? I didn't like it on my boots, but that was on my boards, not the skwal... so I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantok Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I didn't notice any advantage with the BTS on skwal. What was good was trying downhill boots which were more responsive with greater edging power. It wasn't weird like using them on an alpine board. I find the Volkl and mPride too stiff off the groomers. In powder I eventually nose down and get launched, but they are great in corn snow. 39cm (15 1/4 to 15 1/2 inches) between binding centres. Much closer is the norm, which I will try. The Volkl came mounted (no inserts) and I am set up the same on the mPride until I get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I'm still thinking about mounting these bindings on 193 cm twin-tip freestyle ski. Not so much to do carving, but to start to get the feel of skiing on one single board. A proper skwal and binding are planned for the future. Anyways, any suggestions how to position the bindings on the board. I do have a "centre of sidecut" marking on the ski. Should I position the binding equally on either side of this line or position my body centre of gravity? by-the-way, thanks for all the great input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantok Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Not a bad idea. Mine are equally spaced from the midpoint. You might want to glue your binding screws in since they will likely be outside any binding plate reinforcement. You could also drill through and put inserts in more than one position. What are the bindings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufty Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Oddly enough, I was thinking along the same lines (just for laffs); I have a bunch of hard, hard, hard skis lying about that I never use. Unfortunately, they are also old, and have sidecuts in the 50-70m range, so that plan's kiboshed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 you might want to glue your binding screws in since they will likely be outside any binding plate reinforcement. You could also drill through and put inserts in more than one position. What are the bindings? Whoa ..... thanks for the heads up Wantok. It was just last night that I observed the plate under the base (lighting was just right), thing was I couldn't figure it's purpose. You're right on, inserts would be placed outside of plate. You just saved me some headache or worst. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 What are the bindings? The bindings I savaged off a pair of short skiboards (skate ski). I was using my Raichle flexon comp ski boots while attempting to carve on these skiboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Gee, I think these binding might be early 90's "Cateks". They were supplying Jason Levinthal's "Line" boards back then. Which by the way are the skis I'm thinking of using as a skwal – a pair of "Line" 193cm Ostness Dragon. Probably one of the first twin tip ski ever on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Ostness Dragon Dimensions: 193cm, 110-76-101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photodad2001 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Take this to "Off-Topic". This is a snowboard forum. Not to be a Dic% but Snowman made me do it. (sorry I've had a few) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Rover Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Ummm....yeah. I DO have a question. A very simple one, at that: What the heck is a "Skwal"??? I've never heard of it...not that that means anything...but seriously, what the dickens is it??? From the name alone, I picture in my mind some sort of mono-ski with a swallow tail ("Sk" + "wal" )...but I'm sure that can't be right. Is it like some new fangled "Snurfer" except with a binding??? I have never even seen a picture of one. What is it....please....the suspense is killing me!! Gravity IS Life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 re: What the heck is a "Skwal"? Nice photo & skwal description on the alpine carving website: http://www.alpinecarving.com/board_models.html#skwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel45 Posted March 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Take this to "Off-Topic".This is a snowboard forum. Respectfully, this thread doesn't seem to be "off-topic" – presently a few of us are discussing alpine carving using hardboots on a skwal board. I'm assuming you are taking offence to the mention of the Ostness Dragon ski. An interesting factoid about this ski is that it contains the best assets of a snowboard. Equal height tip and tail, center mounting, symmetric forgiving flex, deep sidecut and even uses snowboard dimensions. Kind of sounds like the characteristics of a skwal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photodad2001 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Respectfully, this thread doesn't seem to be "off-topic" – presently a few of us are discussing alpine carving using hardboots on a skwal board. I'm assuming you are taking offence to the mention of the Ostness Dragon ski. An interesting factoid about this board is that it contains the best assets of a snowboard. Equal height tip and tail, center mounting, symmetric forgiving flex, deep sidecut and even use snowboard dimensions. Kind of sounds like the characteristics of a skwal to me. I have my fingers crossed that there will still be decent snow here next week [March break] for planned trip. Glad to hear snowman is still with ya – raise another! Sorry, and I do agree this topic is not "OT". Actually I was a bit pissed about another thread after getting back from the bar last night and took it out on here. Others would argue that SB carving is "OT" and I was trying to bring the attention that this is a carving forum and gear doesn't change that unless for somereason you are on a Soft setup. Sorry for the unexpected surprise. But while I am here and it is up for discussion. The fact that the "hardboot" seems to over-ride and even negate the presence of a board according to those who've been hear longer. I'm a bit confused when it comes to the "mission statement" because this should be (just by on slope percentages and what the statement claims) primarily a skiers forum since of the hardboot community skiers way out number boarders. I personally don't consider a skwal to be a snowboard (or mono ski) anymore than I would a slalom water ski to be a wakeboard (no offense, just basing it on the full on forward stance rather than the number of planks). [Notice I didn't say, "a skwal is not a board", but I consider it equal to the comparison of a wakeboard vs. a slalom waterski] I guess my question is this. "is this a hardboot forum or a carving forum?" If it is based on the boots I think I'll start a Boxers carving forum and if you wear Briefs it's off topic because you aren't wearing the gear.;) Again, my bad on pissing on your thread.:o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjl Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Sorry, and I do agree... blahmeaningless spewage noise Jesus Christ will you put a damn filter between your brain and your fingers? God. AlaskanRover: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=skwal You people. Seriously. W T F. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 You are a dip **** of epic porportions. Put down the cocktail and go back and reread exactly what I said about Skwal. Then, pick up your cocktail and choke on it.:)Think Snow! you owe me a new keyboard. just spit coffee all over this one. :lol::lol::lol::lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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