Hans Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 New line and new lenghts, second pic SG Full Race 185. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photodad2001 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 SG getting into the BX market with the Force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 SG getting into the BX market with the Force? They have had a BX board for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrenchKnife Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Lovin' me my FRPT 183! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photodad2001 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 They have had a BX board for quite some time. Has it always gone under the Force name? I think I saw a rider in the BX olympics on one. I didn't know what it was at first but the red and yellow match the spots on the board. (bad angle, newsprint quality photo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 New line and new lenghts, second pic SG Full Race 185. Full Race Pro Team & Full Race Titan What's the difference between these 2 decks. Thx RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalrob08 Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I am pretty sure the only difference is the topsheet and the price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Full Race Pro Team & Full Race TitanWhat's the difference between these 2 decks. Thx RT The "retail" team vs. full race is top sheet only 100%, however team racers like Karl might have some customization... I guess :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc-alex Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I am pretty sure the only difference is the topsheet and the price... That's correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovastic Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 i just got my 08 Race Pro Team this season! (the last one in Europe :lol: they had no Race T left) And now I see this new FRT in 180 length.... Oh my darling wife, can I spend few hundred Euros more on snowboards again? :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transistor Rhythm Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 The BX board looks sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrenchKnife Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 That's correct! No, it isn't. The difference is in extra titanal laminates. When you put the two side by side the difference is notable. identical shape though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc-alex Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 No, it isn't. The difference is in extra titanal laminates.When you put the two side by side the difference is notable. identical shape though. That's new for me. New for 2011? Or in 2010 as well? I will check my boards later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegtal Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Ok, it's a race oriented brand, but those boards look ugly to me. By far not as important as performance, but they look ugly. Kesslers' or Apexs' topsheets seem to have almost no graphic design (in fact they have), but they look fast ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pukas Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 New line and new lenghts, second pic SG Full Race 185. Any changes from the 2010 boards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 No, it isn't. The difference is in extra titanal laminates.When you put the two side by side the difference is notable. identical shape though. Pro Team 185 vs. Race Full T 163 - YES there's a difference in titanium layer thickness, however Pro Team 163 vs. Race Full T 163 - NO difference That's what I could compare in my own garage. As of http://www.sgsnowboards.com/ "Titanal technology and dampening system, identical set up" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf Quebec Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 That's good as I ride a 163 Full race T (2008-2009) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piciu Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 That's good as I ride a 163 Full race T (2008-2009) I ride 185 Pro Team, 163 Pro Team and 163 Full T (all 08/09) and those are same construction. Also, no way 100EUR suggested retail price difference could give any extra value (inside construction) than the top sheet graphic. SG dealers in Europe sell those in nearly same price :) As you look at 2010/2011 line in the top, there's a new Full Carve that seems to look like identical shape (57, 63, 70, 75, 80) but no Titatnium... as far as I speak Japanese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarvingScooby Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 No, it isn't. The difference is in extra titanal laminates.When you put the two side by side the difference is notable. identical shape though. So which has more Titanal: Full Race Pro Team - Full Race Titan Is that mean stiffer in : Longitudinal or Torsion flex I've heard SG 09 is stiffer if not the stiffest compare to '08 or '10, any comment? Greatly appreciated for all input. Cheers RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Directly from Sigi Grabner - The Full Race Pro Team and the Full Race Titan are exactly the same boards!!! Only the limited topsheet and base graphics are different (and the price). For 2011 there are some very interesting new sizes (which have been missing from the raceboard market the last few years ... at least in Europe ...). The new full race are a tad bit softer ("adapted softened flex"), but they are also torsionally stiffer (new angles of the glass layers), which is nice :D ... The Full Carve has the same shape as the Full Race, but is a glass board - some prefer it in soft snow and it is more affordable for teenagers, etc. The Force is a completely new development and seems to get very good feedback ... it is not a titanal construction, because lots of riders prefer glass constructions for SBX (all the Oxess in the Olympics were glass/carbon constructions ...) ... Any more questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pukas Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Directly from Sigi Grabner -The new full race are a tad bit softer ("adapted softened flex"), but they are also torsionally stiffer (new angles of the glass layers), which is nice :D ... Thanks for the update WG! An '11 Full Race has just gone on my wish-list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrenchKnife Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Sigi was commenting on the boards' shapes, not their overall construction. Shapes are identical, materials are the same, but the thickness of the titanal laminate is different between the two. Weigh each board;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterGold Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Sigi was commenting on the boards' shapes, not their overall construction.Shapes are identical, materials are the same, but the thickness of the titanal laminate is different between the two. Weigh each board;) You are very stubborn ;) ... but Sigi also confirmed that the construction is the same ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf Quebec Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I bought my 163 Full Race T last fall from SEB, a junior racer. He told me that the 2009 model was stiffer than the 2008 one and that the Full Race and Full Race Pro Team were the same board except the Red Bull logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUD Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Has it always gone under the Force name? I think I saw a rider in the BX olympics on one. I didn't know what it was at first but the red and yellow match the spots on the board. (bad angle, newsprint quality photo) No, it was just called the SG Cross. I believe they had a team and a "stock". The new one does sound like a different board though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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