JK moscraciun Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 in a strange brown shirt! ;-) "ups" my new toy arrived today! SG FULL RACE PRO TEAM 163 '09 Woodcore Titanal layers Rubber-Carbon-Kevlar dampening system Special Competition set-up Limited Edition Race Board Decambered nose etc, :):rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Stubby ? knockoff ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allee Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 That's hot, JK. Nice piece of gear - have fun on that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrad Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Looks like Santa didn't handle it very well and smooshed in the nose. :) Lots of taper and lots of inserts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow 15 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hey JK Santa must have flown over the UK to, cause he gave me one of those 163's aswell but with Visit inserts instead of Hangl. Willywhit wrote Stubby ? knockoff ? not really its just a slalom board not small board with big sidecut as I understand stubby's to be. More like Kessler killer, just ask Benjamin Karl. I rode mine yesterday for the first time at an indoor snowslope and it rocks. If people are after a Kessler but are having a problem contacting them as a few posts suggest, give SG an email or call as i did, they could not be more helpfull and Sigi himself answered my technical questions. I can,t compare my Sg with Kessler kst but it rides it rides better than my kessler 162 without kst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK moscraciun Posted August 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Stubby ? knockoff ? I don't know what to say about the "knocking off" ore not! but I think is unfair to compare and/ore judge snowboards only on specifications base, especially if are designed/built on two different continents! Probably hand built snowboards within the same specification and same workshop can differ, since wood selection is involved, but again a don't know, is only my opinion! Regarding the looks, I think that the hammerhead shape and decambered nose thing was around before the Stubby! If I'm not wrong > on Kessler's! If there is anybody around here whom tested both boards(stubby vs. the SG in discussion) I kindly ask them to briefly describe/compare impressions about the ride characteristics of both decks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow 15 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 The first board i rode with a stubby nose was a PJ7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transistor Rhythm Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Oxess BX looks really stubby too. It's just the way top of the bill European boards are shaped nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I don't know what to say about the "knocking off" ore not!but I think is unfair to compare and/ore judge snowboards only on specifications base, especially if are designed/built on two different continents! Probably hand built snowboards within the same specification and same workshop can differ, since wood selection is involved, but again a don't know, is only my opinion! Regarding the looks, I think that the hammerhead shape and decambered nose thing was around before the Stubby! If I'm not wrong > on Kessler's! If there is anybody around here whom tested both boards(stubby vs. the SG in discussion) I kindly ask them to briefly describe/compare impressions about the ride characteristics of both decks! Helo, I wasn't trying to be a smartass, that SG is obviously a sick board. My Coiler has the low profile nose and it's pretty stubby shaped.I like the slightly wider and schtubbier. What's up with the extra inserts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow 15 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 The inserts on JK Moscraciun's board are for hangl's and the inserts on mine are for visit plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 extra inserts are for Hangl/other plate systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 thanks is there more beta on the plate systems ? never heard of visit http://www.extremecarving.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2624&highlight= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 http://www.scorpionracingcenter.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=114&osCsid=9968d02e2b6cca46fe3694af6506c074 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex1230 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 "Vist" not "Visit" they made some great ski riser/mount systems too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinecure Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Sweet, sweet board. I hope you like going fast on edge. That boards loves to rail at speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow 15 Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Thanks tex1230 i am going for an eye test. http://www.vist.it/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Stubby ? knockoff ? Schtubby: 171cm, 155cm, 20cm, 13.1m, 4mm this thing: 163cm, 146cm, 20.3cm, 11.8m, 20mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK moscraciun Posted August 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Schtubby: 171cm, 155cm, 20cm, 13.1m, 4mmthis thing: 163cm, 146cm, 20.3cm, 11.8m, 20mm Correct the SG is a bespoke Slalom board, in fact is almost impossible to cruise on it because is incredibly turny and hooky! On flats you constantly have to be aware and flexed otherwise your gonna hit the ground! I talked to Sigi about this and he recommended to detune the nose if I'm not going to race the thing! Since I already own a GS board(Kessler 185), I was interested to buy something more suitable for the Austrian steep, narrow and icy slopes, to navigate the crowds etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 I would think with 20mm of taper, it would not be hooky at all. And 11.8m is pretty long for a 163, so it's not going to be as turny as most 163s. And with a 20.3cm waist, it's shouldn't be twitchy. don't detune it. detuning is for rail-sliding wannabe skaters, and wimps. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow 15 Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 The board is not hooky or twitchy. I have found it easy to ride but when you commit yourself it loves to carve and carve hard. I can definitely vouch for its slalom attributes as I have just won the slalom at the World Firefighter Games. http://www.wfg08.com/events/event_details.cfm?serID=0fe50dba-6b87-4a5a-981d-394c00fc902a&infID=results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK moscraciun Posted August 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 I would think with 20mm of taper, it would not be hooky at all. And 11.8m is pretty long for a 163, so it's not going to be as turny as most 163s. And with a 20.3cm waist, it's shouldn't be twitchy.don't detune it. detuning is for rail-sliding wannabe skaters, and wimps. ;) It is viciously turny when I compare is to my Kessler 185 which is pure speed and acceleration! I never stated that is TWITCHY or UNSTABLE! I just pointing out that is a raceboard and is dooing pretty much what was designed for! Is not a cruiser or a lazy man board, it can kill your leg muscles in one run! don't misunderstood me the board is amazing, is unbelievable how hard you can carve it! And the edgehold was a complete surprise for me cause before testriding the SG I demoed in the same day 2 different Virus's and 1 Pogo with roughly the same specs and I instantly ordered de SG! so ... it is a sweet board! >I think my non-english might be a problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywhit Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Schtubby: 171cm, 155cm, 20cm, 13.1m, 4mmthis thing: 163cm, 146cm, 20.3cm, 11.8m, 20mm just to clarify the numbers mean: length,effective edge,waist width,sidecut radius,I'm stuck on the last one , tho. correct me if I'm off on any of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ursle Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 must be setback, the 20mm must be a typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike T Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 just to clarifythe numbers mean: length,effective edge,waist width,sidecut radius,I'm stuck on the last one , tho. correct me if I'm off on any of this. last one is taper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack M Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 last one is taper. right. 20mm is mega taper for freecarving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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