Gecko Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Since a the Needham Open and a discussion with Rick (Wavechaser) I've been wondering if Fin could be talked into CNCing skateboard trucks. I mean it's not like Bomber doesn't make a bunch of things other than snowboard bindings. A money maker would be a nice surfy straight pivot in the 180mm range but then again so would a nice slalom truck something that could have an adjustable pivot and be wedged for front or rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobdea Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 I'd buy the TDPE (trench digger pavement edition) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxguitarist Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 i want low(split axle) 40 degree reverse pivot trucks! no spherical bushings though, adds cost and makes 'em twitchy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 i want low(split axle) 40 degree reverse pivot trucks!no spherical bushings though, adds cost and makes 'em twitchy! If it could be done in a similar manner to Confederate trucks that would likely reduce costs and make it simpler to construct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 SOmething like GOG would be perfect: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtrussny Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 What are these again? BEEFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Here is few more shots of these babies, (no, i dont have these, been just drooling) : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 is that in addition to being really really cool they are also silly complex and expensive. Simplicity makes things cheap...hell 2 different baseplates under a Splitfire style hanger would be cheaper than trying to build that one truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 is that in addition to being really really cool they are also silly complex and expensive. Do you mean complex to make? Cause changing the geometry is as simple as taking that one bolt out..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Expencive :rolleyes: , pair of them is pretty much same as one pair of TD's. So everything is relative :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gendzwill Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Expencive :rolleyes: , pair of them is pretty much same as one pair of TD's. So everything is relative :DMore. They're EUR 338 from Concrete Wave in Germany, that's about $US455 before any shipping or duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 GOG's here in the states are almost twice the cost of a set of TD2's at $500 a pair...that I mean was that the trucks are complex to manufacture and patented which means that Bomber couldn't really copy them....of course licensing the design might be an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 My price calculation was based on price i need to pay for pair of TDs, that inculdes shiping, duties and taxes which is pretty equal to price of GOGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebu Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 That's funny, I look at them and I see just a couple simple milling operations and this and that. Looks simple to me. Now the patent and stuff. Depending on how in depth they got the patent, you probably can't get anybody else to make anything quite like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtrussny Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Can someone post a link where I can buy these in the US? Looked and came up empty. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokkis Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Check sk8kings but also Heiko at concretewave.de can help you ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Check sk8kingsbut also Heiko at concretewave.de can help you ;) SK8Kings and GOG / Pavel have gone their separate ways...no bad blood, just a business decision. http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5011&highlight=pavel+sk8kings The variable angle is a GREAT feature though - yeah they are expensive, but how expensive are four different sets of racing trucks with different fixed angles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 What are these again? BEEFY G.O.G. = Gang of Germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted June 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 It also depends on just how geeked out you feel the need to be on a skateboard....I mean unlike say Catek bindings you really aren't gonna be changing you truck angles that much or that often. That said Slalom skateboarders are the Apline snowboarders of the Skateworld....quivers are a requirement for them and they are gear geeks...I say this and I actually have an Chindy offset worth $125 on my Slalom board so yes slalom is a gear geeks sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Can someone post a link where I can buy these in the US? Looked and came up empty. Thanks. They're basically not available in the US at this point in time... If they are, someone please fill me in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 It also depends on just how geeked out you feel the need to be on a skateboard....I mean unlike say Catek bindings you really aren't gonna be changing you truck angles that much or that often. Depends on who you are.... I watched someone change the angle on the exact rear truck we've been talking about just the other day. He flelt his rear truck was too dead for the course we had set. 10 seconds later, he's happy. I'm with you though, I don't think that I'd be changing truck angles that often. I've found that a quick bushing change works wonders for me. Although if the option to change angles easily were there, I might do it more often... What I wouldn't do for a front GOG right now though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko Posted June 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 lots of people seem to be able to get buy with a simple wedged RTS/X combo, or 45/30 Seismics, or a combo of those. That was my plan until I got a deal on my Chindy. I still want a semi precision front truck to match the Chindy, trying to get a hold of GeezerX to work on my spare Indy 109 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Since we're dreaming, why don't we have Fin whip up some PVD's? PVD Racing Trucks Apparently the designs for these trucks are "Open Source", according the some of the "in the know" slalomers: PVD trucks thread GOG weren't the first trucks to have on-the-fly geometry adjustability.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavechaser Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Fin? ...great idea Skully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 Ha, funny enough over the years I have had a steady stream of people ask about making a "better" skate truck. I have to admit, I am no expert but there does seem to be a lot of room for improvement. The one thing I find a limiting factor is the use of Urethane bushings for controlling the truck movement. Bad: Non linear response Break down over time Temperature dependant I know they work and they have been around for a while but a spring based system (done right) has none of the above flaws. There are already a few out there already. Maybe a design that deviates from the traditional "king pin" pivot design? Something that gives you controlled bias on the inside versus outside wheel? Like a car front end. Speaking of wheels, I just made this "item" over the weekend. Who can tell me what it is? Winner gets a small warm beer at the next SES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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